Transfer Window Speculation

[goodrobotusses]

1 minute ago, Swipe said:

Tbf the club does bang on a good bit about opportunist signings. I’d say they have their core targets and then a few they accept they’re underdogs for but who they’d defo stump up for. 

Probably, but if we're stepping in last minute when someone else has laid the groundwork, like PSG with Kvaratskhelia, we're probably just letting out hot air for no gain. Of course, could be that we are getting in early and just losing out, and that stuff just never comes out, but why make it public last minute when we then seem destined to look a bit silly?

[Swipe]

4 minutes ago, goodrobotusses said:

Probably, but if we're stepping in last minute when someone else has laid the groundwork, like PSG with Kvaratskhelia, we're probably just letting out hot air for no gain. Of course, could be that we are getting in early and just losing out, and that stuff just never comes out, but why make it public last minute when we then seem destined to look a bit silly?

I just don’t think that would be anything but bad optics tbh. Just not good PR.

I suspect Wirtz is the same as caciedo; expected to go somewhere for ages and then his people start putting out feelers to other clubs to get what they want. We say we’re bang up for it, but it’s more about leverage with the club he wants to go. 

Edited 32 minutes ago by Swipe

[Cobs]

A ‘come & get me Liverpool’ plea if ever I heard it

 

1 minute ago, Swipe said:

I just don’t think that would be anything but bad optics tbh. Just not good PR.

I suspect Wirtz is the same as caciedo; expected to go somewhere for ages and then his people start putting out feelers to other clubs to get what they want. We say we’re bang up for it, but it’s more about leverage with the club he wants to go. 

Which will probably be why we haven’t put a bid in to end the speculation 

[Hus]

9 minutes ago, goodrobotusses said:

Probably, but if we're stepping in last minute when someone else has laid the groundwork, like PSG with Kvaratskhelia, we're probably just letting out hot air for no gain. Of course, could be that we are getting in early and just losing out, and that stuff just never comes out, but why make it public last minute when we then seem destined to look a bit silly?

Agree it's a bit of a weird one, I suspect the stuff with Wirtz is linked to Frimpong in some way? It's a bit of a reach but maybe we agreed to put our name into the mix to help them get a better deal out of Bayern and in return we got favourable terms? 

Seems at odds with our usual deep dive approach, especially with someone like Wirtz who would cost a significant amount. I also wonder if it's just a way to create some noise and distract from other deals, Wharton or similar perhaps? Smokescreen klaxon! 

Edited 28 minutes ago by Hus

[goodrobotusses]

3 minutes ago, Swipe said:

I just don’t think that would be anything but bad optics tbh. Just not good PR.

I suspect Wirtz is the same as caciedo; expected to go somewhere for ages and then his people start putting out feelers to other clubs to get what they want. We say we’re bang up for it, but it’s more about leverage with the club he wants to go. 

Yeah, I reckon so. Maybe how we did the deal for Diaz, undercutting Spurs, taught us that that's a clever way to go about things. But it's one thing to give Spurs' face a good egging, it's quite another with PSG, Bayern, City etc.

[Cobs]

2 minutes ago, Hus said:

Agree it's a bit of a weird one, I suspect the stuff with Wirtz is linked to Frimpong in some way? It's a bit of a reach but maybe we agreed to put our name into the mix to help them get a better deal out of Bayern and in return we got favourable terms? 

Seems at odds with our usual deep dive approach, especially with someone like Wirtz who would cost a significant amount. I also wonder if just a way to create some noise and distract from other deals, Wharton or similar perhaps? A good old fashioned smokescreen! 

Did we not just bid the release clause amount?

[Swipe]

5 minutes ago, Cobs said:

A ‘come & get me Liverpool’ plea if ever I heard it

 

Which will probably be why we haven’t put a bid in to end the speculation 

Yeah we usually don’t bid unless we think it’s on do we. Although we clearly did with caicedo.

Is there still Guehi speculation?

[Hus]

Just now, Cobs said:

Did we not just bid the release clause amount?

Yes, I was thinking about the payment structure and terms rather than the headline amount etc. 

[goodrobotusses]

My theory on Wirtz is that he is going to Bayern, but Bayern leaking to the German press before the end of the season that he had agreed to join them put the Wirtz family's nose out of joint, so they did this UK jaunt to poke Bayern in the eye. My feeling is that the Wirtzes don't want to look disrespectful to Leverkusen. 

[Cobs]

3 minutes ago, Swipe said:

Yeah we usually don’t bid unless we think it’s on do we. Although we clearly did with caicedo.

Is there still Guehi speculation?

Something led us to believe we could get Caicedo - whether that was Brighton or the player’s representatives 

I think Guehi is on the move this summer

[Swipe]

Just now, Cobs said:

Something led us to believe we could get Caicedo - whether that was Brighton or the player’s representatives 

I think Guehi is on the move this summer

Yeah I think his people played us.

Interesting to see who we go for now Huijsen is off elsewhere.