The 5 Live debate on now

[Maldini]

Anyone listening? Plenty of people in the audience talking sense but Colin Murray and the other guy keep steering it towards s**** about shared stadiums and Rafa.

[danwms]

if we had not of sold those players we would never have been able to afford torres.

[Maldini]

Peter Hooton is ruling this debate

 

What the f*** has this s*** got to do with "The future of football"?

[Maldini]

Didn't catch the start of the debate but there was not enough talk about G&H for me and WAY too much talk about Rafa. This whole "movement" will never get anywhere unless they can get people to stop thinking in the short term, they spent 30 minutes talking about Rafa's bad buys, in the grand scheme of things who gives a f***! The existence of our club as we know it is in danger, are Aquilani's injuries really more important?

 

Pretty crap show to be honest, in spite of the reds in the audience rather than because of it I have to say. Pougatch and Murray were very poor.

[Raj]

Pougatch and Murray were very poor.

 

they're always poor

murray is one s*** presenter, etc

[Des]

they're always poor

murray is one s*** presenter, etc

 

He's *spit* alright on a silly show like Fighting Talk but anything more weighty than that and he's floundering way out of his depth.

[Bailo]

they're always poor

murray is one s*** presenter, etc

Pougatch is worse.

[cymrococh]

He's *spit* alright on a silly show like Fighting Talk but anything more weighty than that and he's floundering way out of his depth.

His darts 'punditry' is sickening. the big patronising post-ironic c*ntpiece.

[MFletcher]

As Des says, he's fine on a light-hearted, non-serious show like Fighting Talk when he can get away with talking rubbish and being chummy with the guests. In a more substantive debate, where he actually has to try and steer debate in the right sort of direction and occasionally offer his own useful opinions, he's completely out of his depth and sounds like a Northern Irish version of Tim Lovejoy.

[Gomez]

I agree with all of this, I didn't hear the whole show, but I heard enough to get annoyed by the constant steering of it towards non-issues like the shared stadium.

 

And if a Liverpool fan really said to a bluenose, "you can share our stadium if we can have Moyes" then quite frankly we need to tighten up our admission policy.

[Jarg Armani]

Just back from this. It wasn't bad really. The shared stadium is, as Hooton said, a non issue but you can see why 5Live wanted to talk about it, that's the little box they want us in. I thought the comments in general were good, and the nonsense ones were mostly answered. Was sitting on my hands until that little rat said "Benitez has consistently bought badly" you should have seen the hands go up haha.

[meredithmathieson]

I was there too. The whole groundsharing yawnfest was steered by Radio 5, I thought. Peter Hooton was quite right when he said that it was a dead issue in Liverpool thesedays.

 

Thought the Everton KEIOC fellah spoke a lot of sense, to be honest, and made their case well.

 

But, if anything, the whole thing just served to demonstrate what completely different planets the two clubs live on.

 

If Liverpool had experienced 'that wonderful,wonderful day at Wembley' against a team of Manc under 18s and gone on to lose the final, it would be declared a complete failure. But for them, it was their pinnacle. Which just goes to show, how do you compare Rafa with Moyes, when the latter cannot be said to have displayed any European credentials?

 

Aside from that, was thwarted in my atttempted answer to 'I love Rafa but' (and Murray wonders why we think the media are against Rafa?), when I wanted to say 'I love Rafa but you've got to stop winning the Derbies, it's just getting boring. We don't even need 11 players now, and Everton haven't been able to produce a DVD for the last 3 years'.

 

Completely overlooked the ownership issue, again because that is a Liverpool issue.

 

Could have done with a Liverpool-only edition really.

 

At least Pougatch got put right on a few points when he trotted out the same old anti-Rafa arguments (which he took well, to be honest).

[muleskinner]

I was there too. The whole groundsharing yawnfest was steered by Radio 5, I thought. Peter Hooton was quite right when he said that it was a dead issue in Liverpool thesedays.

 

Thought the Everton KEIOC fellah spoke a lot of sense, to be honest, and made their case well.

 

But, if anything, the whole thing just served to demonstrate what completely different planets the two clubs live on.

 

If Liverpool had experienced 'that wonderful,wonderful day at Wembley' against a team of Manc under 18s and gone on to lose the final, it would be declared a complete failure. But for them, it was their pinnacle. Which just goes to show, how do you compare Rafa with Moyes, when the latter cannot be said to have displayed any European credentials?

 

Aside from that, was thwarted in my atttempted answer to 'I love Rafa but' (and Murray wonders why we think the media are against Rafa?), when I wanted to say 'I love Rafa but you've got to stop winning the Derbies, it's just getting boring. We don't even need 11 players now, and Everton haven't been able to produce a DVD for the last 3 years'.

 

Completely overlooked the ownership issue, again because that is a Liverpool issue.

 

Could have done with a Liverpool-only edition really.

 

At least Pougatch got put right on a few points when he trotted out the same old anti-Rafa arguments (which he took well, to be honest).

 

Stood out massively that did. It was almost becoming a case of get them to groundshare and everything will be sound. The point was raised about the San Siro being an albatross and neither club being happy but it was ignored by Pougatch and Murray as its a lovely stadium you should you go there and you could do the same here.