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U.S. war plans targeting Iran are all about "protecting" Israel

by Justin Raimondo

 

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j051208b.html

 

It looks like the War Party is victorious, at least according to Philip Giraldi writing on The American Conservative blog:

 

"There is considerable speculation and buzz in Washington today suggesting that the National Security Council has agreed in principle to proceed with plans to attack an Iranian al-Quds-run camp that is believed to be training Iraqi militants. The camp that will be targeted is one of several located near Tehran. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates was the only senior official urging delay in taking any offensive action."

 

Alarm bells ought to be going off across the nation. The presidential candidates ought to be debating whether or not this is the right course. Obama, the "antiwar" candidate, ought to be speaking out.

 

Instead, what we hear is… silence. If ever there was a scoop, then this is a major one. Yet not a word is being spoken about it in the "mainstream" media. So much for the supposedly highly competitive nature of the news business...

 

 

 

John Bolton: US should bomb Iranian camps

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1931520/Jo...nian-camps.html

 

Check out her ring. :hmm:

 

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All over bar the shouting?

 

Well I suppose it doesn't really matter once you are comfortable or happy, but more likely comfortable. I find the fatigue due to sleep deprivation makes comfort an absolute priority for me. :lol:

 

So if you can't be happy then be happy with comfort?

 

I suppose when you see what some people have to endure then I guess we should just be thankful...

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All over bar the shouting?

 

Well I suppose it doesn't really matter once you are comfortable or happy, but more likely comfortable. I find the fatigue lunacy due to sleep deprivation makes comfort an absolute priority for me. :lol:

 

So if you can't be happy then be happy with comfort?

 

I suppose when you see what some people have to endure then I guess we should just be thankful...

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The Israeli failure to dislodge Hezbollah from its Lebanese fortress and subvert their growing political dominance – a direct result of the 2006 war – has Tel Aviv in a tizzy. The whole point of their "Clean Break" strategy, the linchpin of the American neocons' decade-long drive to embroil us in Iraq, has been compromised and even reversed by Hezbollah's continuing defiance. Tel Avivwants them taken out – by the U.S., which alone has the firepower to do it.

nice to see a journalist who does his homework

the Israeli government sits in Jerusalem

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adayinthelife may be a loon but there is more than an element of truth in the story. Bush is determined to take military action against Iran before he leaves office. He is meeting the Saudi leaders this week to discuss Iran and oil prices.

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adayinthelife may be a loon but there is more than an element of truth in the story. Bush is determined to take military action against Iran before he leaves office. He is meeting the Saudi leaders this week to discuss Iran and oil prices.

Indeed, he may be a looney - but given his scouring of all sources for this kind of info, the only surprise is that he's surprised at its conclusions. I doubt there is one half-intelligent person outside of the most blind ultra neo-con of families that believes Iraq was invaded to 'save the iraqi people from the bonds of Saddam' or to remove any fictional WMD capability. That leaves oil and Isreal and all points in between.

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Indeed, he may be a looney - but given his scouring of all sources for this kind of info, the only surprise is that he's surprised at its conclusions. I doubt there is one half-intelligent person outside of the most blind ultra neo-con of families that believes Iraq was invaded to 'save the iraqi people from the bonds of Saddam' or to remove any fictional WMD capability. That leaves oil and Isreal and all points in between.

I thought it was to protect the valuable carrot crop

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Indeed, he may be a looney - but given his scouring of all sources for this kind of info, the only surprise is that he's surprised at its conclusions. I doubt there is one half-intelligent person outside of the most blind ultra neo-con of families that believes Iraq was invaded to 'save the iraqi people from the bonds of Saddam' or to remove any fictional WMD capability. That leaves oil and Isreal and all points in between.

 

What I really am surprised at is the meh attitude from people who are all too willing to trade in their freedoms. Call me a paranoid conspiracy nut all you want, but the reality is that Bush and his mates have clearly stated in public what they are all about.

 

"We need to reform our legal systems so the people, on the one hand, can get justice, on the other hand the justice system doesn't affect the flows of capital." - George Bush

 

So in effect justice has no right to interfere with profits.

 

"In a well-functioning capitalist society, everything becomes a commodity, including freedom; one can have as much as one can buy, and those who can buy a lot have every reason to preserve an ample supply."

 

Any idea who said that?

 

So in reality freedom has become simply the freedom of capital.

 

Back in 2005 John Bolton made some amendments to the definition of terrorism...

 

'We affirm that the targeting and deliberate killing of civilians and non-combatants by terrorists cannot be justified or legitimized by any cause or grievance, and we declare that any such action intended to cause death or serious bodily harm to (civilians and non-combatants) others.

 

Bits in bold were added and what's in brackets was deleted.

 

The changes may look harmless enough, but by just adding "by terrorists", that would then exclude any actions by the US from being described as terrorism.

 

I will give the last word for now to the clown that is Bill O'Reilly, even though I know you all hate those youtube videos, you should get a good laugh out of this.

 

Bill O'Reilly Meltdown

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWtfbISKd8U...feature=related

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Ok - you're a paranoid conspiracy nut!

 

However - we've been through this. This is not a forum of headbangers (well, not all) most of us have been to Uni, seen a bit of life etc and many are in our 40's and (in my case) 50's. We've seen it all before - from Mi5 paying contract CIA agents to break into Harold Wilson's office and the TUC fitting up Ted Short, to various types blowing away two Kennedys, one Martin Luther King, assisting Lockheed into blackmailing the then West German govt into buying the dodgy Starfighter (and losing lots of pilots thereafter) to MacMillan telling us we've never had it so good while hushing up a a major leak at Windscale that poisoned huge chunks of the North of Britain, the lies about the Falklands, shoot to kill in NI...and on, and on...

 

Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely and so forth - it's not new. Oh - and your quote is Chomsky.

 

'What we give the public is bread and circuses' - how about that one? Freedom has always been the commodity of capital. You can be as free as you want as long as it doesn't interfere with the profit margins. That's been the way of the world since the industrial revolution at the very least, and even back as far as the Romans - in many ways, we are now freer and have access to information on how free or not we are and also the education to make such a judgment. Do you know why when someone retires in this country it has been traditional for almost 200 years to give them a clock or a gold watch? It's symbolic of giving them back their time, the time previously owned by their employer - time and freedom owned by capital.

 

Pres. Kennedy was killed so it goes, because he wanted to pull all troops out of Vietnam by Christmas '65 and end the coldwar with the Russians - even to co-operate in the Space race. No Vietnam - no F111 development money, no Pepsi Cola catering contracts, no Bell Helicopter to be designed for Jungle warfare - by close of play. 300bn dollars had been spent on Vietnam as a conservative estimate - christ knows what that is in todays worth. No cold war - no Nuclear development money for Lawrence Livermore - they got 50bn in four years from LBJ alone - Brown & Root )of which he was a non-exec director) got £30bn. That's a lot of profit that was seemingly more valuable than JFK's life - or his Brothers, or MLK's once he started saying 'Pull out of Vietnam'. Profit over freedom...it's hardly new. The only surprise to me is that this concept within Governments, thinktanks and business is somehow a revelation to you.

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It doesn't surprise me anymore, but what does is that you know about it and just accept it as that's life.

 

So you know pretty much what is going on, but you can't do anything about it, so we should all just admit that the World is f***ed beyond any hope?

 

Enlightened people seldom or never possess a sense of responsibility. - George Orwell

 

So what has been happening the last 7 years is nothing new, but the pain and suffering inflicted has become even more twisted and sick. So what difference has all the knowledge made, when you are simply a passive observer?

 

If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever. -George Orwell

 

So your solution to this is what exactly?

 

Distract yourself with sex, drugs and rock n roll, rather than face reality?

 

Real mature.

 

As for Chomsky, my good mate Barrie Zwicker shows him up as a fraud.

 

Don't ever forget to keep buying, like the good consumer you know you are.

 

If you remember what it is to be human, then maybe you will care enough to do something, anything, to try to stop the mass murderers from inflicting more death on your fellow man.

 

I won't hold my breath...

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Distract yourself with sex, drugs and rock n roll, rather than face reality?

 

Real mature.

As for Chomsky, my good mate Barrie Zwicker shows him up as a fraud.

 

Don't ever forget to keep buying, like the good consumer you know you are.

 

If you remember what it is to be human, then maybe you will care enough to do something, anything, to try to stop the mass murderers from inflicting more death on your fellow man.

 

I won't hold my breath...

JUST SAY er... NO thanks, I'm too mature for hedonism!

 

best not, eh?

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It doesn't surprise me anymore, but what does is that you know about it and just accept it as that's life.

 

So you know pretty much what is going on, but you can't do anything about it, so we should all just admit that the World is f***ed beyond any hope?

 

Enlightened people seldom or never possess a sense of responsibility. - George Orwell

 

So what has been happening the last 7 years is nothing new, but the pain and suffering inflicted has become even more twisted and sick. So what difference has all the knowledge made, when you are simply a passive observer?

 

If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever. -George Orwell

 

So your solution to this is what exactly?

 

Distract yourself with sex, drugs and rock n roll, rather than face reality?

 

Real mature.

 

As for Chomsky, my good mate Barrie Zwicker shows him up as a fraud.

 

Don't ever forget to keep buying, like the good consumer you know you are.

 

If you remember what it is to be human, then maybe you will care enough to do something, anything, to try to stop the mass murderers from inflicting more death on your fellow man.

 

I won't hold my breath...

 

You do tend to toward the incredibly self righteous, don't you? Maybe it's the arrogance of youth?

 

'Distract yourself with sex, drugs and rock n roll, rather than face reality?' I think I clearly stated some reality for you so you could see you're not talking to a bunch of total hedonistic ignoramuses, unaware of the world we live - what are you doing about any of this apart from coming on to a football general forum and whining about it all in the way I'd normally expect from a bedsit revolutionary? Yes Bush and his administration are a bunch of self-serving c*nts but as we live in the UK and are not even US citizens, what exactly can we do about it? Britain has long been the US's poodle, no matter who is elected - again, what exactly are we supposed to do about?

 

Do you think none of us here have ever been on demos, started petitions, even indulged in a spot of direct action from time to time? Apart from armed insurrection, what else would you suggest - a targeted leaflet campaign, maybe? Hard-hitting stuff - or just more whining to those who have understood all this since long before you were born and realise that the great mass of the population here and elsewhere frankly don't give a sh*t - bread and circuses, remember? Who cares what Bolton and Bush are up to as long as you have our KFC bucket and 'Celebrity Come Dancing'? Answer - not that many. like it or not, that's life.

 

Lamely middle aged as I am, I do my best to buy ethically, no £2 tee shirts in this house. I buy fairtrade whenever I can. I don't have an Xbox.PS3 thing, don't watch junk TV, don't own a car (my wife has one for work), and live my life according to the socialist principals I believe in. Oh - I don't drink (apart from birthdays and holidays and then not much) and I don't do drugs - sex is obligatory as I've been married for 23 years - sorry I couldn't give that up.

 

What is my solution - I don't have one, other than personal responsibility and decency. I'm one person with no power base who is well aware that most people do want their bread and circuses, most people don't care about what Bush is up to. Mortgages, the price of petrol, the price of cornflakes and their kids' clothes is what most people care about - and that's in the affluent west.

 

If you think by posting this stuff and then coming all over superior your some how 'doing your bit' you're kidding yourself.

 

So in practical terms, what are YOU doing?

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You do tend to toward the incredibly self righteous, don't you? Maybe it's the arrogance of youth?

 

'Distract yourself with sex, drugs and rock n roll, rather than face reality?' I think I clearly stated some reality for you so you could see you're not talking to a bunch of total hedonistic ignoramuses, unaware of the world we live - what are you doing about any of this apart from coming on to a football general forum and whining about it all in the way I'd normally expect from a bedsit revolutionary? Yes Bush and his administration are a bunch of self-serving c*nts but as we live in the UK and are not even US citizens, what exactly can we do about it? Britain has long been the US's poodle, no matter who is elected - again, what exactly are we supposed to do about?

 

Do you think none of us here have ever been on demos, started petitions, even indulged in a spot of direct action from time to time? Apart from armed insurrection, what else would you suggest - a targeted leaflet campaign, maybe? Hard-hitting stuff - or just more whining to those who have understood all this since long before you were born and realise that the great mass of the population here and elsewhere frankly don't give a sh*t - bread and circuses, remember? Who cares what Bolton and Bush are up to as long as you have our KFC bucket and 'Celebrity Come Dancing'? Answer - not that many. like it or not, that's life.

 

Lamely middle aged as I am, I do my best to buy ethically, no £2 tee shirts in this house. I buy fairtrade whenever I can. I don't have an Xbox.PS3 thing, don't watch junk TV, don't own a car (my wife has one for work), and live my life according to the socialist principals I believe in. Oh - I don't drink (apart from birthdays and holidays and then not much) and I don't do drugs - sex is obligatory as I've been married for 23 years - sorry I couldn't give that up.

 

What is my solution - I don't have one, other than personal responsibility and decency. I'm one person with no power base who is well aware that most people do want their bread and circuses, most people don't care about what Bush is up to. Mortgages, the price of petrol, the price of cornflakes and their kids' clothes is what most people care about - and that's in the affluent west.

 

If you think by posting this stuff and then coming all over superior your some how 'doing your bit' you're kidding yourself.

 

So in practical terms, what are YOU doing?

 

I am not at liberty to say what I am doing on this forum, due to a probable banning.

 

I agree with much of what you say, so the solution is to try not to reflect about the people running the show and just try to enjoy the ride without doing anything to harm anybody?

 

23 years married and you still haven't given up sex?

 

Does your wife know? :lol:

 

I just found out that Obama is a distant relative of both Cheney and Bush.

 

Crazy as it may sound, yet he verified it, so like he said himself, every family has a black sheep...

 

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10172007/news/...ama__cheney.htm

 

Except in reality this black sheep still wants to be very much part of the family.

 

Small World...

 

BARACK OBAMA: THE WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING

 

 

I guess that means there is no need for him to be taken out, like others in the past.

 

As you have probably seen with Obama's supporters, there are hundreds of millions all over the World, not just in the US who think he is a man they can finally believe in, so many people do care about what is happening to the World, even in the US.

 

You have to hand it to them, they really have played a blinder.

 

The problem is that people don't want to, or simply can't believe that it really is a conspiracy.

 

"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." J. Edgar Hoover

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When did George Orwell become the font of everything that's going to happen?

 

Well probably when all those CCTVs started flying up all over the place.

 

How many is it now? I think 4 million was the last count.

 

So with all those cameras, which are supposedly there to reduce crime, then why hasn't the UK got the lowest crime rate in the World?

 

The times today also has a nice article for anybody left in any doubt...

 

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/busi...icle3965033.ece

 

‘Big Brother’ database for phones and e-mails

 

A massive government database holding details of every phone call, e-mail and time spent on the internet by the public is being planned................................................as part of the fight against crime and terrorism.

 

No need to worry though, as it's all for a great and just cause.

 

Jonathan Bamford, the assistant Information Commissioner, said: “This would give us serious concerns and may well be a step too far. We are not aware of any justification for the State to hold every UK citizen’s phone and internet records. We have real doubts that such a measure can be justified, or is proportionate or desirable. We have warned before that we are sleepwalking into a surveillance society. Holding large collections of data is always risky - the more data that is collected and stored, the bigger the problem when the data is lost, traded or stolen.”

 

 

Anybody have any objections?

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Who is the 'they' you refer to adayinthlife?

 

Military/Industrial Complex? Illuminati? The Catholic Church? The Bilderburg group? Shape-shifting lizards?

 

I haven't really got a clue, but there is a definite agenda by those with the most power.

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