The match-fixing scandal might just refer to the 1 or 2 specific seasons for which wire taps have been obtained. However the activity was going on for as long as Moggi was at Juventus and he was there when they lost 2 CL finals. They might not have needed to fix gmes but they still did, didn't they. If you had been living in Italy for 10 years you too would have enjoyed the wonderful schadenfreude attached to Juve losing those games. They are the Manure of Italy; no-one in Turin supports them, load of bandwaggon joining fans who've never or rarely seen them play at a stadium, general media masturbation over them etc.