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that Rodgers really really doesnt rate him.

thats what I think.

he is better then Cole who I think is finished as a premier league player. and its too bad as he could have been good for us and he seems like a good guy. and I think he maybe better then Downing atm, because he has very bad mentality on the pitch (he does look better these last two games, although he still far from good). he had a place on the bench yesterday Chili. we played Shelvey for 90 minutes, 45 of them on the wing which he isnt suited for.

Im not saying he is good enough btw. but he looked "less bad" then others yet they play and he doesnt.

Pacheco is no good mate didnt you get the memo? the fact that he looked better then Cole in pre season means nothing as he wasnt playing for Rayo last season.. and before someone will say I am Pacheco, I just mean that lets judge the player on what he does when he is wearing the Liverpool jersy. not saying he is a top player, but he looked better in pre season then other players in his position yet they get the credit and he doesnt. Disclaimer: I suport Rodgers and I like what I see so far and this is no critisism of him !

94.. you could also block the keepers kicks for an easy goal..

I think he is better then Cole already. Cole looks finished to me as a premier league player. he looked way out of shape in the pre season and its little wonder he had a muscle injury 15 minutes into the first official game he had. he basicly didnt look fit his entire time here. unfortunately.

Boom!

damn. they really arent happy with us.

whos permission do we need?

why only 6 subs and no Allen? was hoping to see him for 20 minutes or so and to let him get the reception he deserves. anyway, good to see sterling starting and robinson on the bench. also good to see Andy there.

I mean someone who has the ability to do unexpected things and create goalscoring chances out of nothing. I dont expect us to get someone as good as Suarez, but someone who has the ability to just win us a match we are struggling in. I agree most of the creativity needs to come from the team and the system, but sometimes you need players who can "brake" from the system and only use it as a platform to build on when the team is struggling. I dont think Downing can offer what I mean. he was pretty good yesterday and I hope he continues this way, he is more like Valencia in style. as in kind of predictable but can be effective (I would love him to be as effective as Valencia the c**t).

yes. Its either Messi or Dempsey..

dont know how much he will score, but I think whoever we bring he will need to be good on the ball and creative and also have good pace because I think we still lack creativity and pace upfront. on Allen, I have only seen him once aganist us at Anfield and was impressed. I just hope we have enough money left for that good attacker I mentioned above. I think it also makes Spearing and especially Adam not needed and we should sell them.

Im really enjoying this. lots of movement off the ball.

wrong thread.

Happy to see Shelvey starting.

thats what I think.

Sao Paulo has sold Lucas to PSG. Sources close to the club say the deal is worth €43million. He will join in January. (Globo Esporte)

great news re Suarez! Makes me a bit more confident he likes what he hears about our plans.

Yep. Fantastic achievement.

f**k off

a- we want to sell Agger. thats why he wasnt involved against Gomel. thats why we told City to bid 20-22m. If we dont want to sell him we either tell them to f**k off or tell them to pay something ridicules. we told them to pay a decent (less then decent maybe) sum. b-I think this Nuri link is to put pressure on Swansea and Allen as I dont see us fetting both and its clear we want Allen.

He is injured for half the season. on the other half he is one of the best in europe. As others have said, I can see the logic in selling him if we were in better position. but right now, I just dont have faith we will use the money recieved wisely and improving the squad. I fear that having Agger for half the season is better then having his replacement for the entire season. Use the times Agger is out to promote Coates and Kelly. We should have done that last season.