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Gawd bless em, just as the comedy appears to have finished over the park, these come along and provide some more much needed comedic relief. Man City latest: under Premier League rules the club will not be able to appeal any sanction to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (which overturned the UEFA ban)

That’s bloody harsh, I think the European court of human rights and possibly the Geneva convention wouldn’t allow that.

Unless they strip them of all their titles and cups then it’s just punishing everyone else for their cheating. Everton next for their dodgy dealings, strip them of all their…… er…. As you were

No chance, FSG would have appointed Allardyce well before that.

I think that’s one of the fake accounts out there. Some idle hands making mischief because they’re not making rhyming banners right now.

Is Mo carrying all that extra wage in his shorts pocket?

Klopp is an amazing human being, I think if he thought he couldn’t fix it he would offer his resignation. Personally he has a pass from me, we have had years of champagne football. He deserves the time to rebuild, but will be get the backing.

If the squad came in to training and just played cards or call of duty all day, they’d be better than this mess right now.

When the Ox and Keita are given new contracts. But before the riot I’d demand Klopp was sectioned.

We don’t deserve to win this, we are effing s***

Saved me a trip to anfield on the 8th freezing watching this s***e

Robbo saying pass that on to messi from me

Everton are a club out of time in every way A tumultuous Tuesday was simply the latest symptom of choas and dysfunction at the Premier League’s ‘worst-run club’ Miguel Delaney1 hour ago Even by Everton’s recent standards, Tuesday was a tumultuous day. It started with Marcelo Bielsa making clear his concerns about the job, continued with Tottenham Hotspur humiliatinglyhijacking their move for Villarreal’s Arnaut Danjuma and concluded with Newcastle United trying to argue down a price for Anthony Gordon to over £20m less than he could have been sold for last summer. You could call it a day in the life of the modern Everton, but it is the kind of chaos that is to be expected after almost a decade of dysfunction. People in the game now regularly make the argument that they are the worst-run club in the Premier League. One industry figure even quipped about how the Bielsa move is just “taking someone else’s good idea from five years ago”. It will admittedly be a coup if they appoint the idiosyncratic Argentine, but as much because of his regular approach to negotiations as his reputation. Bielsa likes to take his time with job offers in order to assess every aspect of clubs to see if they are ideologically right for him. The build-up can often “take months”. Everton don’t have that kind of time, especially since they could be in the Championship and facing up to a very difficult financial future in the same period. They want someone in by Friday, so the new appointment has a full week to work with them before the home match with Arsenal. Bielsa has already relayed questions about the state of the squad and the very structure of the club. It may take a lot to convince him, but chairman Farhad Moshiri wants to press ahead. He is enamoured by the idea. Connected sources believe the hierarchy had been holding out for former manager David Moyes, and there was also interest in Thomas Frank. The Brentford manager had little interest himself. Why would he? It is not just because the Everton job could cut his career rise but also because of the question over what the point of Frank joining would actually be. This is far deeper than just the threat of relegation. Much has been made over how Everton considering both Bielsa and Sam Allardyce shows a lack of any kind of ideology, but more relevant is the reason managers like Frank - and, before him, Graham Potter - have no interest. Brentford work superbly under the Dane because his way of working fits well into a wider structure. There is simply no guarantee Frank could have anything like the same effect at Everton because there is none of that structure. This isn’t to take away from the Brentford boss. It is just how well-run clubs and astute coaches see the game. They don't see that in Everton. They see what everyone else sees. It is all the more reason they need a manager who takes total command as one who keeps them in the division. It is, ironically, why there is some logic in going for Allardyce if they don’t get Bielsa, but not Sean Dyche. Everton just need to stay in the division. They can think about the long term once this very short-term need is addressed. Allardyce would at least allow them to try and that, with no conditions about further commitments. He might give them breathing space. A number of connected sources meanwhile say that Dyche would want a contract for longer than the end of the season. He also insists on more control at clubs than most managers, which is why he hasn't been as popular on leaving Burnley as many expected. Everton, however, want a more progressive style of football if they do stay up. It is such a big if, although one that has been made worse by the misguided choice of Frank Lampard. The Everton squad is highly flawed but it isn’t as bad as 19th and shouldn’t have been losing so many home games to so many survival rivals. There is a fair argument that squad is much better than those rivals - and even sides like Brentford and possibly Brighton - but again it comes back to the same issue. The players at such clubs have all been signed to an idea that fits. It is all in unison so everything is maximised. This is something Everton have long been warned about, that they need to start looking at clubs historically beneath them, not perpetually try and keep up with those above. They have instead continued making decisions out of kilter with where they are, and even the modern game. Another argument has grown in that time, which is that Everton would actually benefit from relegation since that would force the kind of reckoning and reset that is so badly required. Those with knowledge of the club think this is “crazy”, and not just because of their sense of identity about having never gone down, or any notions they are too big for the Championship. It is because of the hard facts of their finances. Everton have a new stadium to pay for, a lot of debt and few player assets that would command much of a fee. It is why the Gordon negotiations are all the more galling. It’s a classic case of the wrong decision at the wrong time, but the sort of thing that keeps happening when there is so little clarity about the way forward. This is the type of cycle Everton are in, only they have mastered it in terms of institutional ineptitude. Every way they turn, there is an issue. Even if they go for the long-term approach now - such as appointing Bielsa - it could still damage the long-term future of the club because of the rigours required to implement a totally new way of playing. If they go for the short term, though, there are no guarantees about that and it could just mean perpetuating this cycle or making it worse. So much of this comes from a lack of clarity about what they have been, as much as the way forward. The club has long been in denial about their status, and there has almost been a sense of delusion. So many decisions - from player trading to managerial appointments - have been taken on the basis of “bigness”, of radiating a grandeur that should appropriately reflect their grand history. Hence Carlo Ancelotti at a point when no super-clubs would touch him. It is just Everton’s luck, however, that he then goes to Real Madrid at a point when they themselves needed a place-holder and actually burnishes his legacy in the greatest way possible with a record fourth Champions League. That also sums up the modern Everton. Hence Lampard, when lower clubs were unwilling to appoint him. The Independenthas been told of interview processes at two jobs where the former midfielder was seen as the candidate who seemed to have done the least preparation. “It was as if his name was enough,” was the sense that one source got. This sounds like the modern Everton. Name. Image. Superficialities over substance. This has long been a concern but now, sadly, looks like it could be leading to a highly-concerning reality. What Everton should do has long been clear. They need to accept that the football world is very different from when they had so much success, and that name only goes so far. They need to accept they are currently in the Premier League’s third tier in terms of finance, and build a philosophy and ideology from there. Everything must fit into that. They must do what Brighton and Brentford have done, looking for the next big thing rather than the last big thing. They need to look to the longer term, and a reset. The problem, from a cascade of so many different issues, is that they don’t really have the time or space for any of that now. That brings us full circle, again. More than anything else, Everton need to sell the club. They have effectively been for sale since February 2022, although some sources say it is only in the last few weeks that has become properly serious. But who is buying them at 19th in the table? The short term is again negating the long term, at a club that is out of time in so many senses.

You have to factor in the finishing of the stadium, around £500m. Newcastle sold for £305 with a big stadium. He wants someone to effectively throw in a billion, on a chance they’ll get relegated and then how is that stadium being paid off?

Why buy him now when they can get him for half price at the end of the season.

he Bobble @ElBobble · 5m In a remarkable u-turn this morning and after refusing to send his registration form to the FA ahead of training today for his new club Everton, Arnaut Danjuma is now in talks with Tottenham. Everton are currently left bewildered with medical, media and agreements all complete he turmoil around Everton continues to grow with the Toffees set to miss out on transfer target Arnaut Danjuma to Tottenham. The Merseysiders looked in pole position to secure a loan deal for the Villarreal forward after agreeing terms with the LaLiga outfit and the Nigerian international completing a medical too but crucially not signing a deal. However, Tottenham have swooped in for the 25-year-old at the 11th hour - with the in-demand player now heading to London for talks.

They spelt sh*t wrong.

Bielsa has reportedly turned them down, they’ve had talks with Fat Sam who is backup. Imagine having to go cap in hand to Allardyce.

I’ll drive him there myself.

About £90 million lost, parachute payments are 40 or so million for one year, much less thereafter. Club value drops, season ticket prices slashed, sponsorships value drops to about 10%. Player values drop to about 50%. Players not tied to a relegation clause will continue on full premiership wage. They wouldn’t be able to pay the finance on a new stadium, they lose a fortune now in the premiership as it is. There’s no way dropping is in any way good for them, it’s all negative. They won’t even win games in the championship.

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