baja the hut

Look he's 27. These are his contract years. The pay ceiling at City is higher. On the other hand he comes here and sorts the back out he'll be a hero. Still think money wins through.

I really hope he is the 'other options', instant upgrade. He is rumoured to be on 50k per week and wants double that. Apparently is not possible at spurs due to their wage structure. But should be here.

Anyone reckon a bid for Aldeweireld would be possible. He's apparently in discussions over pay. He's a massive upgrade and is possibly the best centre back in the league.

12 in 14?

Well they clearly scouted the wrong left back. Don't get me wrong it's on the manager too. Guardiola scouted and spent huge amounts on fullbacks. We have taken Milner out of there, replaced him with worse and brought in a back up we don't use. Meanwhile we spend another 40 million at the deadline on a wide player.

Exactly...

Think the summary is it was a shambles.

It is also due to the fact that we have a goalkeeper who doesn't make as many top-drawer saves as required.

I'd replace Firmino with Neymar.

Completely different role, think he challenges more of a Can, Wijanaldum box-to-box role that the 6 role that Henderson performs.

Oh ok. Didn't know that. However was he prepared to play there for Liverpool. I assume he did that after having some training there.

Perhaps. Struck me as someone whose plan A had failed and one who made a snap decision to put Can at RB. Even putting Ox or Milner there would have made more sense. RPs point re: players going for clarification is spot on and worrying too. This wasn't a set scenario. I think he lost his composure. Pochettino outsmarted him. His decision to remove Lovren was the right call, it is always the right call. Lovren shouldn't start unless we have squad issues again. Just play Gomez.

It was a weird thing to do. Can at RB.

Think that Klopp thought that his coaching powers are transformative. Sadly with the defence it seems as though they aren't. Time for him to be ruthless with his squad decisions.

Klopp's Karius call is his worst in his tenure. And to say that there's no other CBs available apart from VVD (who clearly wasn't available in hindsight) who are better than what we have is a bit daft.

Possibly. Don't expect complete and utter rationality from a football fan on an internet forum...

Combination of both. But it's likely Guardiola could not win the title with our squad.

We're already 9 points off top! But yes next season we will be boss. Keita is arriving.

Get him in Jan but too late to be relevant this season I fear.

his finishing

Yeah it is. I am unbelievably frustrated. Joe Gomez is a top talent. Only silver lining today.

Molby is right. FSG aren't the owners for LFC. I hope they sell.

I will, I want the takeover to happen. But I can't see how Klopp isn't culpable to some degree. Maybe to a far lesser degree than FSG but still culpable.

There are clearly better fans than I am, but I am frustrated. I wanted to challenge for the league and we have not taken steps. We are 9 points off the pace with 8 games gone. In any context that is sub-par. We are not able to defend when we score or score when we defend. We can't break teams down who sit deep. Say what you want about how well we defended, but I am not sure I can confidently say that we could put in a performance like Man Utd did against us today, however negative and aesthetically unpleasing it is. We are an incredibly frustrating team to watch and right now the way it's going it looks as though we will have more questions than answers at the end of the season. Whatever is going on right now is clearly not good enough, for a club with such a glorious past and for a fanbase a vast and loyal.

Nah. If he doesn't get top 4 this year and make it past group stages champs league then it's a question.