Ombudsam

Who’s complaining if it works? It’s not about being cheap, it’s about it believing the best talent exists inside this less that 1% demographic in which our upper footballing tier operates.

It’s always some fella who was already here or some fella from the world’s greatest house share on the south coast in the 00s.

Hopefully but I think Isak, Wirtz and Barcola will run riot. Honestly think this will be the game. We’re gonna do to them what we have done to them so often.

He was good second half of his first season and the vast majority recognised this. He had scored a brace v Arsenal and in the semis of Europe and against Man City a couple of times. By this stage of his second season which was the direct comparison, he was well established in that Coutinho, Firmino, Mane frontline. I think he was genuinely ahead of Sturridge. Perhaps Wirtz will be good and turn it around. It’s what we all want but I disagree with you, he’s been pretty rubbish. Maybe he has been a shade above that but that’s not what any of us wanted.

He was sooooo talented and converted it to amazing output.

It was wild having him and Suarez upfront. Just… wow!

I don’t think we disagree. We are back to people stating things that just weren’t and just aren’t because they like someone. It is the bit that does my head in.

If anything, I reckon that the football we played at the start of 16/17 (as in where we are now this season) is the football that is identified most with Klopp and Bobby was central to it and scoring goals.

I have a feeling it will be the first signature performance and our players will look great. In fact, you know what? I reckon we are going to Anfield the f*** out of these c****.

But wasn’t your point that people were saying the things you quoted a this point of the Wirtz timeline and not some amount of time before. In fact, those comments about Firmino suggest that people have been more patient with Florian.

It was outrageous. Klopp said that he didn’t mind overindexing on one extreme quality to make up for others. So we should get that Nigerian third choice guy to replace Becker’s main thing and sort out out the rest somehow

Yeah. I can’t stand listening to his breakdowns while watching us. I do think some of the criticism is unwarranted though. I remember that conversation he had after our first game last season where he was saying to Slot that he thought we were a bit open. It was an interesting discussion and fair point but he ended up being flamed by some. Having said that, I was dead against all his bitching about Salah and I spose someone else could say that all he wanted was for Liverpool to be put first.

Wasn’t Iraola saying that he literally wanted him to play higher and only get involved when necessary? I’m not saying that is what is happening and I might be misremembering but it would make sense if that was the goal.

And who gives a f*** about any of them? I don’t sit there at kick off watching a live Power BI database that tracks Wirtz’s involvements vs Palmer’s and Odegaard’s against Carragher mentions. Do you see how f***ing ridiculous you sound trying to prove God knows f***ing what? The lad has been bad, is playing badly but will hopefully play well from now. It’s that simple. According to you, Slot should have stayed, Arsenal have actually been rubbish for the last 4 years and now Wirtz has been good actually. It’s Hightown _Phil levels of nonsense wrapped in faux intellectual rabbit hole contrarianism. You are s*** at talking about football. Objective fact.

Why are you watching the games on Chat GPT? That’s why you don’t understand.

Thing is, he was even really good after his first two major injuries, that was probably even his peak. It’s just the degradation after that that has cost him.

He’s most likely already dead.

This Wirtz thing is turning good people mad.

What is it he is missing now? Presumably someone to pass to on the right (although Gakpo is doing a job), someone to pass the ball to him and someone to win the ball for him? Is that what we need to switch him on or are there other things as well?

I like Munoz. He’s already done more than I was expecting

He’s played at Aquilani levels. It’s some of the same weird politics forming around him too. He’s somehow some symbol to defend because Slot shouldn’t have got so much stick or something.

Where have you been? Have you been cheating on us with your family?

I always said there was a >10% chance charlie clown would destroy the forum.

When we were also awesome.

It started from really early on. People just saying they were seeing amazing things that he was doing that just weren’t happening. I remember thinking “I really want him to do well and will say he has done something when he has done something but he isn’t doing anything”. He more than even Isak was the one who was meant to take us to the next level so I guess that is why we are so desperate for there to be a thing there. Agree on all that, even down to him looking like a footballer v Newcastle. That Ipswich performance broke me. He was just doing shocking things for no reason. Occasionally things happen and you discover what a word truly means, infuriating was mine that night.