Mr. Biscan

Mainly because we've been here since 2002. Since the site started, and my Dad has put in a lot of work on this site for you, as well as the other owners. And I haven't been gloating, but I will tell you this, considering the hostility of the past few months I won't lie to you, the shred of comfort I have taken from the past few weeks is the fact that I have been right and have been dignified throughout. f*** it, go around in circles and talking about net f***ing spend, go listen to a podcast which only offers ONE f***ING SIDE OF THE f***ING COIN. Just remember d****eads that I was right about Houllier, and back when SOS started I was the f***ing one helping to try and save this club despite you all hiding away and doing f*** all about it. Remember that me Dad was right about Parry and you mocked from afar. Wayne, DH, Mike, Molby, Heck even anny road, Leo and Gibbo to name a fair few. I may not agree with what you say, but I respect their opinions. This is me, signing off. Don't worry you can now all agree on the same, f***ing thing, over and over a f***ing gain. And in a few months from now, if Rafa is sacked, and I hope he turns it around. Just remember I told you so. Back stabbing pricks.

Well this is the thing, he's totally spot on, but because we have such a low net spend it's completely impossible to expect Rafa to do any better.

Will Rafa ever win the league? Raise some money for the HJC. Right I know what you are thinking, oh s*** another thread, but f*** it if we are going to get something out of this at least lets give something to the HJC. I don't think we will win the league under Rafa, rather than wait another year, lets get someone else in and consolidate, but anyway It's about time people put their money where their mouth is. £50 says we won't win the league Under Rafa and this will increase by £5 for every season we go buy with him under our regime until we do so. Mr Biscan- £50 says we will not win the league under Rafa + £5 for any additional season we go without until if/he wins it.

It's certainly one way of looking at it. Another way of looking at it is that he's an excellent cup winner. What he did in 2005 was tremendous, the real 'Benitez' wins came in the CL Semi and Quarters. The decision to put Hamman on wasn't as inspired as peo...You know what, it's only going to be mis-construed. It's a fine line between success and failure, I am incredibly grateful for what Rafa did in 05 and 06...But that was 05 and 06. Since then we have finished 2nd and that is the closest Benitez is going to get us to the league £50 to the HJC says we won't win the league under Benitez.

Because they where screwing the club over, the same reason everyone else did. IMO The Ownership situation and the situation we find ourselves in with Rafa are two totally separate things. I'll be honest, I've find myself apathetic to the budget deductions Rafa has had, especially during this current run of utterly s*** football. Yanks or no Yanks this current run of form is utterly f***ing disastrous, and beyond the pale. We should be doing better, it's not as if we are 4 or so points off the pace, we are struggling to make fourth! I want the owners out as much as the next person, but the purpose of this football club, which IMO has evaded people is to actually play football, and it's not good enough. He hasn't been working on a shoe string, and the fact we have lost to the bottom side is nothing short of ridiculous. Net spend or no net spend he has actually spent £200+ Million, and echos of Houllier surround us.

Yeah alright, the fact is hardly any of our problems can be put down to the owners, this season anyway. Where the owners a problem when we where playing the best football going from March onwards?

This is the thing, will Benitez win the league in 2 years time? Doubt it, and Shankly is not Benitez.

We are not duty bound to our manager, results and league positions dictate everything, if I had my way he would be gone already. I would understand if we where slightly off the pace, but we aren't just off the pace, we are reversing at an incredible speed. I don't think Benitez will ever win the league with us, regardless of funding or indeed more time. So instead of consolidating next season, consolidate now with another manager.

Two reasons 1. He's injured 2. Everyone around him is s***

My plan is to wait and see who wants the job when Benitez goes. Ideally I think we need someone to take us up till summer, then Evaluate.

Isn't that mainly to do with the quality of Barca, Chelsea et all? I mean the Italian league is weak as it is, but he's still doing a cracking job at Inter. The fact is no one knows whether Mourinho would want the job, as much as he is my 1st choice, I just want someone, anyone because I don't have faith in our manager.

Just finding it abit hard to gather my thoughts at the moment. I know people call me an antagonist and all that, and many people believe I am revelling in this, but I'm not. I'm utterly f***ing depressed. I'm struggling to see an end to this, and even us beating Wolves will do f*** all for me.

Hang on, aren't Inter top of the league?

No Mourinho would be an ace manager

We need a new outlook, a new approach, a new slant on things and new ideas. So for that reason, I will take anyone out of Hiddink, Rijkaard, King Kenny, Thommo, Mourinho.

Well said

Likewise

No I don't, but I'd like it to happen.

You could just hope we turn it around with a new manager. Believe me I feel sorry for you, but we aren't in meltdown.

Hiddink till July. Then evaluate. We won't finish 4th, and that has to be the minimum target, and it won't be good enough for us Under Rafa if he even made it. Sadly, we can't afford to get rid of him.

Tell you what mate, Why didn't you tell me that a year or so back when we where sorting out the SOS s****?

Yeah alright mate

Nah f*** you mate. I've been right all along and the only comfort I can take from this utter f***ing disgrace of a squad and manager is that I took all this forums f***ing s*** and abuse and all sorts in good stead. Nothing would make me happier if we turned this around, but we wpon't because we've got a spineless manager. Rafa out! f***ing depressing

Well said

I'm not being smug at all, i'm just attempting to put it all into perspective for you fine gentlemen and women. *Tips hat*