Webster ruling

[Internationinteroperability]

I've just read somewhere that Ribery will decide in March if he'll stay at FC Bayern or not. If he doesn't extend his contract he only has a year left and therefore, FC Bayern want to cash in on him.

 

And now here's the "tricky" part. Ribery signed for FCB in 2007 (4 years). Therefore, according to the Webster ruling, he'll be able to choose any non-German club he wishes in the summer with FCB only entitled to a year's salary as compensation, this making him a lot cheaper than Bayern's original price tag.

 

I reckon a lot of players are in a similar situation as well. How come clubs don't take advantage of this? With the little money Rafa has available, this would be a decent opportunity to sign "proven" players or am I just dreaming?

 

I find it a bit odd that no one has exploited this. Maybe I've misunderstood the whole thing...

[Sion]

I think it's all very complicated and not really worth it to the player unless they're being kept against their will.

[Rimbeux]

It involves the player sitting out at least half a season and then hoping for a favourable verdict. Not many would do that.

 

I'm starting to believe though that players will be increasingly influenced to stall on new contracts and engineer bosmans, tapped up for a couple of years. I think we already see it a youth level.

 

Also think that we could see a rise in loans for cash as clubs like Chelsea start to see a wave of young players they've spent years gathering reach a stage where they need games and Chelsea can afford to risk tying them in on long term deals, then loan them out for a season at a time for a bit of wedge and make money out of players that cost little up front.

[Maldini]

Yeah, I think we'll see more loans and releases. I was just thinking the other day that apart from a few big transfers this window was almost like an American football transfer window with teams sending people out on loan or releasing them just to get them off the wage bill.

[Rimbeux]

Yeah, I think we'll see more loans and releases. I was just thinking the other day that apart from a few big transfers this window was almost like an American football transfer window with teams sending people out on loan or releasing them just to get them off the wage bill.

 

 

American football is right. I think the wage bills are becoming so huge that clubs will really zone in on them and they will become the dominant factor, that players become liabilities rather than assets. It may not be the £10m you pay for the player or might get for him that really swings it, more the £20m over 4 years you are contractually obliged to pay him.

 

Why pay a huge fee and give a long contract to protect that fee when you might be so desperate for someone to come in and take the contract over to save a year or two of wages that you'll waive a fee altogether.

 

As wages go higher to the point where they pretty much set up players for life in a handful of years, are players going to be more interested in the 'security' of five year deals or the opportunity of three year ones? Are clubs going to prefer to keep most of their players on shorter deals with less long term liability and help create an environment where general fees are lower and contracts are less of a long term burden?

[Maldini]

American football is right. I think the wage bills are becoming so huge that clubs will really zone in on them and they will become the dominant factor, that players become liabilities rather than assets. It may not be the £10m you pay for the player or might get for him that really swings it, more the £20m over 4 years you are contractually obliged to pay him.

 

Why pay a huge fee and give a long contract to protect that fee when you might be so desperate for someone to come in and take the contract over to save a year or two of wages that you'll waive a fee altogether.

 

As wages go higher to the point where they pretty much set up players for life in a handful of years, are players going to be more interested in the 'security' of five year deals or the opportunity of three year ones? Are clubs going to prefer to keep most of their players on shorter deals with less long term liability and help create an environment where general fees are lower and contracts are less of a long term burden?

 

It'll be interesting to see how it develops over the next few years. I'm sure if agents have their way players will be moving more. Wages are certainly a massive factor in transfers these days, it's almost like the financial crisis has imposed an artificial wage cap on clubs. I doubt things will stay like this when the economy recovers but hopefully by then FIFA/UEFA/The Premier League will have at least imposed a compromised limit by capping wages at 60% of turnover. If that does come in it may go some way to addressing the exponential rise in player's wages.

[growler]

The whole transfer system is fecked.

 

Agents, signing on fees, paying out contracts, agents, bonuses, loyalty clauses, performance bonuses, agents, commissions, ceiling matching conditions its all a crock.

 

All transfer details should be made public. How much was paid to the club and the payment schedule, how much to agents and length of contract.

Signing on fees should be capped at 1% of total contract

Wages should be lodged with a central body who then keep track of the wages at a club

the central body should set a limit which is calculated on a base of TV revenue for the next year

'exit fees' based on paying out contracts etc should be limited to the difference between the potential loss on the current contract by going to a the new contract, and then only if the player will be paid less.

Agents should have be made public and explain to the fans of the club what they did in the deal for the player and the club.

Agents should be made available for the fans after each game to be a punch bag as part of the ticket cost

Manager changes should be restricted to the same transfer windows as players, ie cannot be sacked or released during the season

[badtodabone]

The whole transfer system is fecked.

 

Agents, signing on fees, paying out contracts, agents, bonuses, loyalty clauses, performance bonuses, agents, commissions, ceiling matching conditions its all a crock.

 

All transfer details should be made public. How much was paid to the club and the payment schedule, how much to agents and length of contract.

Signing on fees should be capped at 1% of total contract

Wages should be lodged with a central body who then keep track of the wages at a club

the central body should set a limit which is calculated on a base of TV revenue for the next year

'exit fees' based on paying out contracts etc should be limited to the difference between the potential loss on the current contract by going to a the new contract, and then only if the player will be paid less.

Agents should have be made public and explain to the fans of the club what they did in the deal for the player and the club.

Agents should be made available for the fans after each game to be a punch bag as part of the ticket cost

Manager changes should be restricted to the same transfer windows as players, ie cannot be sacked or released during the season

 

most sensible thing posted on this site for ages