I think Europe is probably as good a guage of the standard of English football as you can get. Since Wenger arrived, the standard of the Premiership has gone up a notch and you can see that in Utd and ourselves winning the European Cup, Arsenal making it to the final, Chelsea making it to two semi-finals, Utd making it to one semi-final etc. Compare that to the record of Premiership sides in Europe before Wenger. Remember Blackburn in the Champions League, Utd's travails against Barcelona, Gothenburg and Galatasaray?