TFU

Passing by both sides is very poor today

I would think that Torres will add something creatively, as will Voronin and Babel if they come on Positive thinking and all that....

Pepe Reina Alvaro Arbeloa Jamie Carragher Daniel Agger Steve Finnan John Arne Riise Steven Gerrard Xabi Alonso Jermaine Pennant Dirk Kuyt Fernando Torres Subs: Charles Itandje Sami Hyypia Andriy Voronin Ryan Babel Momo Sissoko From the offal

Its all good for team spirit this. A good ruck before the season starts, it demonstrates the willingness to fight for each other. Bet Rafa loved it

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I am definately liking that. Thanks for posting the link

It looks amazing, my one complaint is the quality of the mock ups, they looked like they’ve knocked up in MS paint Gotta say, although it was a far inferior stadium, the Everton pics were of better production quality. Maybe we will see something else later on

He made quite a robust challenge, you'd think he'd gotten someone sent off. Completely pathetic if you ask me

Any chance you could PM the sopcast number please Most other streams i've tried are just constantly buffering The setanta subscription I signed up to this morning has still not gone through And the links to the audio on the offal don't work

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Garcia leaving would certainly mean Kewell staying in my opinion. Kewell on form is a lot more potent than Garcia. Maybe Rafa is that convinced by Kewells talent and is willing to take a risk that he will stay injury free. If Kewell plays like he did in his first 6 months, we will be fine for a goal scoring midfielder to play behind the strikers.

Graham Hunters just been on TalkSport, and although has not offered any news, has said about us offering £25million for Torres, and it being refused. He thinks we should walk away if Atletico refuse to budge, as it should be a buyers market not a selling one. Was very positive about the player though, thought he had immense talent, but had question marks over his ability to take a knock premiership style (like Morientes), but suggested hsi young age would mean he could learn to cope with that quite quickly I hope we get this guy in,

How many people do you think would agree with your statement there? (bearing in mind some of the comments since you made this bizarre comment) Are we all going around in a fantasy world completely out of touch with reality? And are you the one true being at the centre of the universe that is never wrong... ever... ever Oh and to keep this post on topic: In 'Dave Usher watch' there has been no developments since he reported the text from his mate saying that Torres had been seen at the kop offices. That is all

Accurately wrong perhaps No way does Carra make more mistakes than Riise, just no way.

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STAT ATTACK II, return of the stats Think its been spoken about before, but statistics cannot be used to completely define a player. In Torres' case he has led a mediocre team as captain for the last few seasons, and is given a lot of credit for it. Is it not fair to consider that in Atleticos team he is seen as more of a forward, there to create and score goals and link the team ala Bergkamp than just an out and out 'fox in the box' striker ala Franny Jeffers Stats do not give you the whole picture, so stop using them to beat a player down that you obviously know nothing about, but are willing to let Opta tell you how good he is. If you really want to see how good he is, go look him up on youtube