Red_Rob

Dudek 7 Finnan 7 Carra 7 Sami 7 Riise 6 Kewell 6 Xabi 7 Gerrard 7 Momo 8 Mori 4 Fowler 7

Thank f*** for Luis. Ashton Kutcher should leave now, I'm sure he has enough footage for his next series of Punk'd, and maybe we can have Morientes back.

But I don't understand, isn't he the 'best player in Africa?' How could this happen????

I didn't get carried away when we were on that great run and I won't get carried away. We're not the finished product yet, Rafa still hasn't got the squad he wants and even when he does it won't provide immediate success. However, we are better than we were this time last season which was better than we were the year before and this time next year we'll be better still. To be honest I couldn't give a s*** about tonight's result as in the great scheme of things, it doesn't matter.

Hmmm stuffed buggers? Kinky.

Sack.............who is our manager this week?

He reminds me so much of Litmanen in that respect. If people judged him on his Liverpool record and not on what he's done in the past, he'd be out on his a***.

Swap Crouch for Morientes and I'd go for that.

Good stuff, I'd much prefer a trip to Cardiff than 'dat London

How has Caliste been doing in the last few months?

"If we can't see the linesman, is it still offside?"

Seems to be something to do with Deportivo not wanting to pay money owed to him for image rights from what I can make out.

So Agger's going to Newcastle then.

I suppose it's inevitible that we'll end up singing Aggadoo. Thought we'd seen the back of that after Diouf left.

Bramble was good, Given was brilliant. That's it.

Smashed up the place after they realised there wasn't a single Jimmy Nail song on the jukebox.

It's on RTE in Ireland. Any of the players on a yellow for the final?

Isn't that the obnoxious site where all those failed c**kney journos sit around a bitch about how much they hate C-list celebrities, but still can't stop talking about them? It seemed to be relevant for about five minutes in 1999 and I thought it had long gone.

Is there any player we're linked to who is supposidly a 'boyhood Red'? Even Carson got that honour, despite the fact that he supported Carlisle.

They claim we want to do a cut-price deal before the transfer deadline on Monday. I'm hoping this is just some journo grasping at straws as I'd hate to see him join us.

Absolutly great idea, I'd definately buy some.

Now that's something I didn't expect to see... PA News Tory leader Michael Howard today described the article in The Spectator criticising Liverpool for wallowing in victim status over the murder of Ken Bigley and the Hillsborough football disaster as "nonsense from beginning to end."

I can't believe he didn't know what was in that article, I think he's probably surprised by the righteous indignation to it, and like a good Tory, is hoping that if he keeps his head low and avoids actually addressing the issue, it will all blow over.

PA have picked up on it now Liverpudlians were accused today of wallowing in their victim status over the murder of Ken Bigley and the Hillsborough football disaster in 1989. The Spectator, in a leading article, speaks of the extreme reaction to the death of Mr Bigley in Iraq and compares that to the reaction of the undeniably greater tragedy at Hillsborough in which scores of Liverpool supporters died. The article, which is unsigned but would have been written under the direction of its Tory MP editor Boris Johnson, is bound to provoke anger in Liverpool, just as the Sun newspaper was attacked for suggesting that the Hillsborough disaster may not have been the sole fault of the police. The Spectator suggests that 'drunken fans' might also have been to blame. This inaccurate and bigoted article immediately provoked a demand by Liverpool Labour MP Peter Kilfoyle, in the Liverpool Echo, for an immediate apology. But Mr Johnson, shadow culture minister, said: We certainly did not mean to offend anybody in Liverpool. The Spectator loves Liverpool. The article spoke of the mawkish sentimentality of a society that has become hooked on grief and likes to wallow in a sense of vicarious victimhood. It pointed out that there had been a two-minute silence for Mr Bigley in Liverpool, the same respect offered annually to the million-and-a-half British servicemen who had died for their country since 1914. The extreme reaction to Mr Bigley's murder is fed by the fact that he was a Liverpudlian. Liverpool is a handsome city with a tribal sense of community. A combination of economic misfortune - its docks were, fundamentally, on the wrong side of England when Britain entered what is now the European Union - and an excessive predilection for welfarism have created a peculiar and deeply unattractive, psyche among many Liverpudlians. They see themselves, whenever possible as victims, and resent their victim status, yet at the same time they wallow in it. Part of this flawed psychological state is that they cannot accept that they might have made any contribution to their misfortunes, but seek rather to blame someone else for it, thereby deepening their sense of shared tribal grievance against the rest of society. The deaths of more than 50 Liverpool football supporters at Hillsborough in 1989 was undeniably a greater tragedy than the single death, however horrible, of Mr Bigley, but that is no excuse for Liverpool's failure to acknowledge, even to this day, the part played in the disaster by drunken fans at the back of the crowd who mindlessly tried to fight their way into the ground that Saturday afternoon. The police became a convenient scapegoat, and the Sun newspaper a whipping boy for daring, albeit in a tasteless fashion to hint at the wider causes of the incident. (still can't believe he said that) Mr Kilfoyle, MP for Liverpool Walton, told the Liverpool Echo: It is inaccurate. It is outrageous and it is bigoted and it is the responsibility of the man who presumes to be shadow minister for culture, media and sport. He should immediately apologise for this disgraceful comment about Liverpool, and the tragedy at Hillsborough and the implied insult to the Bigley family. To single out Liverpool as somehow being psychologically flawed is absolutely outrageous. Mr Johnson, MP for Henley, told PA News: The point of the leader was to criticise the slight culture of mawkishness and sentimentality in this country which one associates with the death of the Princess of Wales. Phil Hammond, chair of the Hillsborough Support Group, called the opinion column an outrage . He said: They don't even know how many people died at Hillsborough - they wrote that it was `more than 50'. It would have taken them five seconds to look it up on the internet. It is an insult that they didn't even bother to check the facts. I do not think anybody has the right to make a judgment about something they do not understand. It is an outrage and we will be demanding an official apology.