Tyler

third is nowhere given the gap in money between the "top four" and other clubs it is next to impossible to break into the top four champions league money has seen to that we exist to win the league and we won't win it with rafa in my opinion the obsession with champions league football is masking failure and third or fourth is failure how many points off the pace were we/are we since he came we finished second under previous managers and they were deemed not good enough

we have bought strikers and played them out wide or asked them to defend simple really

how so? rafa sets the team up not to be beaten rather than to win kuyt has been turned into a workhorse has lost all confidence in front of goal because he is expected to defend as much as attack when we chase a game, players play on instinct, game plan out the window and we pepper opposition when we go two up, we relax, goals flow we are like a horse on a very tight rein. rafa believes in the cult of the manager. doesn't trust the players too many decisions are pre-planned - substitutions for example seem based on fitness charts and not performances players come in and score or do well and are promptly dropped he has been a great servant and has shown up the current owners but he needs a number two, needs to admit his part in this or needs to be replaced the football we are playing is dreadful, turgid stuff

Inevitable that we will win it now

again tonight shackles come off and we look like scoring and this time we beat the clock to equalise

its an excuse we were playing s*** long before this blew up they are professional and are there to play football did the glazer thing affect united rotation for rotations sake or for sake of what fitness tests are telling us are costing us points some players are rarely rested - reina, carra, hyypia, gerrard, torres can argue they are our best players but that may be due to them playing regularly i refuse to believe that players cannot play three games every two weeks give crouch a run in the team play gerrard on the right, alonso and masch in the centre

exactly. at least he knows where the goal is i'd like to see the same eleven start until one of them gets injured then bring in somebody else football is simple pass to the closest player in a red shirt and move we wait until we go behind, shackles come off and we may or may not beat the clock

2-2

no cohesion in our play league football is not a chess match which is how rafa seems to treat these games in european two legged football yes but not three points for a win football gerrard cannot play centre midfield

not good enough simple as

1-0

moving loan to club would require consent of majority of directors stat declaration of solvency also required all the media and sound bites sound like they will sell to dic pity we couldn't replicate barcelona ownership structure and have club in hands of fans not businessmen

is finnan injured?

would dic be any better than g and h. better the devil you know? we do know that parry will be replaced if dic come in. would they also want to instal their own manager?

radio mentioned that for his last game in newcastle as a player, a helicopter landed on the pitch and he flew away still in his kit now that is good

owen slated him in his autibiography owen out before end of jan? newcastle crowd swelled from 30k to 50k tonight by this announcement does keegan have any credibility as a manager? they play united and arsenal soon he could be gone again by easter

based on the above they have backed rafa papers spinning things and not printing all the quotes - non shocka meeting klinnsmann may have been ill advised but maybe things were at a point where rafa was almost certain to go

did rafa or any of his advisers speak to real madrid? we know he was approached by them. if he spoke to them should he be fired? Where is Gillett in all of this? He is never quoted. Seems to me that certainty of misery is better than the misery of uncertainty. Rafa's position is now undermined to such an extent that it is doubtful if he can continue to manage with any credibility.

gypsy curses

what about hunt from reading?

sounds like garcia garcia torres partnership

how good is el zhar haven't seen much of him to be honest sounds like he is rated highly by this if true and he is only one of our younger players currently being given a go in the first team (squad) apart from hobbs

observer

hatchet job on pennant (by reference to his father) in notw today

we'll be ok. things are always blackest before the dawn too much uncertainty at the moment which is not helping but the new stadium is a pre-requisite to our success without the new owners we would not have signed torres too many players out of form, manager in denial, paco not replaced bar has been raised by chelsea and now united 2 champions league finals in 3 years we need to keep things in perspective