Films about 11/9 (stuff the American format)

[Nathan Explosion]

http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/flight93/

 

My personal opinion - Dubya done it, in flight, with the air-to-air missile.

[McBain]

They'll only be permissable if the passengers are shown to be heroes. And there's plenty of evidence to suggest they had nothing to do with the plane coming down

 

Paul Greengrass should have made Watchmen instead

[SkippyjonJones]

whatever they do will be cringeworthy.

 

you just know they are all gonna be heros and all the hijackers will have bad breath and hate everyone.

[Bailo]

whatever they do will be cringeworthy.

 

you just know they are all gonna be heros and all the hijackers will have bad breath and hate everyone

You would dispute that assesment of e.g. Flight 93?

[Ostrich Man]

next theyll be doing a TV docudrama on the Munich Air Crash!!

[SkippyjonJones]

You would dispute that assesment of e.g. Flight 93?

 

 

I don?t have any impartial information that would lead me to a conclusion about what happened on that flight.

[Ostrich Man]

was that the one were the guy tried to order an "egg roll" and those around him misheard....

[Bailo]

I don?t have any impartial information that would lead me to a conclusion about what happened on that flight.

Well, obviously the film(s) will be told from a point of view that is the "accepted" one at the moment, but I think it's fair to say the hijackers weren't sending out blissful love signals to all when they took over the plane.

 

I too though have no impartial information on their oral hygiene.

[SkippyjonJones]

Well, obviously the film(s) will be told from a point of view that is the "accepted" one at the moment, but I think it's fair to say the hijackers weren't sending out blissful love signals to all when they took over the plane.

 

thats the problem isn;t it -if the facts of the flight differ from the "acceptable version" then why not film it as such. otherwise I see little benefit from this effort apart from generating a 'feel good' factor for some people.

 

 

I too though have no impartial information on their oral hygiene.

 

that I'm pleased to hear - but you can see that is how these people will be portrayed as it conforms to a stereotype that is acceptable to the general public - especially the american public.

[John am Rhein]

next theyll be doing a TV docudrama on the Munich Air Crash!!

 

Munich, in cinemas January 27th

[New York Red]

What about the telephone calls from the flight? Essentially they are the only information as to what actually happened as any physical evidence was incinerated. Combine that with the accounts from the other flights that day, why is a fightback from the passengers so implausible if they knew for a fact that they were on a suicide flight? What would they have to lose? Would any of you think that fighhting back in a situation like that is a bad idea?

 

I'm glad to see you have your priorities right about the 9/11 11/9 debate. Very important...

[anny road]

What about the telephone calls from the flight? Essentially they are the only information as to what actually happened as any physical evidence was incinerated. Combine that with the accounts from the other flights that day, why is a fightback from the passengers so implausible if they knew for a fact that they were on a suicide flight? What would they have to lose? Would any of you think that fighhting back in a situation like that is a bad idea?

 

I'm glad to see you have your priorities right about the 9/11 11/9 debate. Very important...

 

 

i think a debate on how Hollywood will view the tragedy is very important

[Ramón Benítez Hernández]

 

I'm glad to see you have your priorities right about the 9/11 11/9 debate. Very important...

 

 

No Yank's gonna tell me how to say the date.

[stressederic]

Oh dear. Everyone stand back, Hollywood's about to give it's account of September 11th. You know its not going to be pretty.

 

Munich, in cinemas January 27th

 

Isn't about the Munich Air Crash

[Bailo]

thats the problem isn;t it -if the facts of the flight differ from the "acceptable version" then why not film it as such. otherwise I see little benefit from this effort apart from generating a 'feel good' factor for some people.

that I'm pleased to hear - but you can see that is how these people will be portrayed as it conforms to a stereotype that is acceptable to the general public - especially the american public.

 

that I'm pleased to hear - but you can see that is how these people will be portrayed as it conforms to a stereotype that is acceptable to the general public - especially the american public.

But do the facts of the flight differ from the "passengers take back the plane and crash it" story? I've seen or heard nothing else to contradict that other than the conspiracy theory that the plane was shot down, which while plausible (and defensible?) has no evidence supporting it.

 

And I'm sorry, but what other portrayal of the Sept 11th hijackers is acceptable? I think the facts speak for themselves.

[Will]

Seems to be a lot of posturing and judgment from those who claim they will "wait and see"

 

Who is making the film?

[Stevie H]

Seems to be a lot of posturing and judgment from those who claim they will "wait and see"

 

Who is making the film?

 

zucker and zucker.

 

rudy giuliani to be played by lloyd bridges, leslie nielsen as the plane's pilot.

[cymrococh]

zucker and zucker.

 

rudy giuliani to be played by lloyd bridges, leslie nielsen as the plane's pilot.

Surely not?

[John am Rhein]

Oh dear. Everyone stand back, Hollywood's about to give it's account of September 11th. You know its not going to be pretty.

Isn't about the Munich Air Crash

 

Oh really

[Stevie H]

Surely not?

 

ahem.

 

don't call me shirley.

[anny road]

There is a TV Docudrama about the Munich Aircrash on BBC

 

 

I think it is next week...it is part of a series about tragedy's I think

 

Saw an advert for it over the weekend

 

I take it OM saw that too

[Ostrich Man]

There is a TV Docudrama about the Munich Aircrash on BBC

I think it is next week...it is part of a series about tragedy's I think

 

Saw an advert for it over the weekend

 

I take it OM saw that too

 

looks awful...but I'll be watching.

[Bailo]

Anyway...'but what other portrayal of the Sept 11th hijackers is acceptable? I think the facts speak for themselves.' so cartoon villains it is then conforming to racial and cultural stereotypes as 'ragheads'. Be careful - you may end up as the new 4pool of orrthodoxy!

 

That hurts man.

 

Of course if they were portrayed as smelly 'ragheads' that would be wrong - but is there any evidence that will be the case in this film? Greengrass is an excellent director, just watch his treatment of Bloody Sunday to see he won't toe 'the party line' if there is one. What they should be portrayed as are crazed, delusional murderers, nothing more, nothing less. And if that makes me 4pool for saying it, so be it!

[New York Red]

I've seen a reenactment on TV here already. It was very well done. Interviewed family members and then had the recreation.

 

The hijackers were portrayed as they were in real life. The one who piloted the plane in particular was shown as being a very westernised character. They weren't shown as just abunch of smelly zealots. To do so would be completely inaccurate -- look at the closed circuit pictures of them at the airports.

 

I can't come to grips with the plane being shot down. I think that procedurally it would have been impossible to do, not forgetting that this plane was one of many that were still in the air at the time. It was chaos that day.

 

All the evidence would point to the fact that they were trying to do something on that plain. Logic would tell us that they were too. They had nothing to lose.