rich list

[floyd]

Lowly ELEVENTH this year.

How the f*** do that European super power Arsenal get THIRD. Fvckin Swiss Toni does a good job as portraying them as something they aint.

Do wonder what the TRUE value of the clubs are, as some of the teams above us have not the fan base we have.

SACK PARRY

 

 

United are 'most valuable' team

Manchester United remain the most valuable football team in the world, according to Forbes business magazine, with Arsenal third in the list.

 

 

The annual list ranks United above Real Madrid with the Gunners leapfrogging AC Milan into third spot and Chelsea in eighth position.

 

Meanwhile, David Beckham has lost top spot to Ronaldinho as the world's highest-earning footballer.

 

Ten Premiership sides appear on Forbes' list of the world's 25 most valuable football teams followed by clubs from Italy (four), Germany (four), Spain (two), France (two), Scotland (two) and Holland (one).

 

The Forbes list, however, says United no longer command the largest yearly revenues as Real Madrid (£191m), Barcelona (£169m) and Juventus (£164m) - who all have own individual TV deals - surpassed their figure of £158m.

 

Salvatore Galatioto, president of the sports banking firm Galatioto Sports Partners, said China remains the key area for future growth.

 

He said: "A big reason why these teams are attracting suitors is their growth potential in all of Asia, but China is the key.

 

"You have great brands with these soccer teams that have not been fully exploited."

 

Forbes say Beckham's lucrative move to Los Angeles Galaxy at the end of the season could see the former England captain recapture his position as football's highest earner.

 

Team valuations in pounds sterling according to Forbes:

 

1 Man Utd £740million

 

2 Real Madrid £528million

 

3 Arsenal £466million

 

4 Bayern Munich £427million

 

5 AC Milan £420million

 

6 Juventus £289million

 

7 Inter Milan £282million

 

8 Chelsea £274million

 

9 Barcelona £273million

 

10 Schalke 04 £240million

 

11 Liverpool £231million

 

12 Lyon £175million

 

13 Newcastle £132million

 

14 Tottenham £124million

 

15 Roma £114million

 

16 Hamburg £112million

 

17 Man City £106million

 

18 B Dortmund £101million

 

19 Ajax £100million

 

20 Celtic £94million

 

21 Everton £84million

 

22 Marseille £80million

 

23 West Ham £79million

 

24 Rangers £75million

 

25 Aston Villa £71m

 

Highest-earning players, according to Forbes

 

1 Ronaldinho (Barcelona) £15.2million

 

2 David Beckham (Real Madrid) £14.8million

 

3 Ronaldo £11.7million

 

4 Wayne Rooney (Man Utd) £8.7million

 

5 Michael Ballack (Chelsea) £8.7million

 

6 Thierry Henry (Arsenal) £8.2million

 

7 Zinedine Zidane (ex-Real Madrid) £8.2million

 

8 Fabio Cannavaro (Real Madrid) £7.6million

 

9 John Terry (Chelsea) £7.1million

 

10 Steven Gerrard (Liverpool) £7.1million

[Guest Anders Honoré]

Schalke 04?

[MikeD]

Clearly doesn't take into account club debt.

[Armin_Tamzarian]

In Arsenal and Schalke's cases completed stadia have a lot to do with those valuations.

 

The significant factor in the Italian teams strength is the individual tv deals. Something I'm sure the American investors in the Premiership will be keen to emulate.

[Stevie H]

arsenal's real estate is worth about bloody £400m on its own.

[Behind Enemy Lines]

is 'Ronaldo' being used as a generic term to describe the tubby one who used to be good & the plastic one who falls over a lot?

[Rimbeux]

Clearly doesn't take into account club debt.

 

 

Wouldn't say that. Those are valuations of what it would cost to buy the business, and the ability of the business to cope with it's debt would be factored into that.

 

For example Man U could probably afford to carry their debt for many many years, just servicing the interest, and still make a s*** load of annual profit, with the lenders more than pleased to take a regular income from their investment, everyone happy. Now if the debt is something the business cant handle, that will also reflect in how much it's worth.

[fyds]

These kind of valuations only show a limited aspect of any of these clubs, as if they were just 'paper' businesses. It doesn't help much really.

 

Example : Man Utd £740m - but an operating debt of £660m - so are they really only worth £80m? Meaningless overall.

[Rimbeux]

These kind of valuations only show a limited aspect of any of these clubs, as if they were just 'paper' businesses. It doesn't help much really.

Example : Man Utd £740m - but an operating debt of £660m - so are they really only worth £80m? Meaningless overall.

 

Not really

 

 

 

 

Also I wouldn't call them meaningless at all, unless you're plain not interested the value of football clubs. The revenue league, the turnover one, is the one you're better aiming that 'misleading' accusation at.