I think it must have been depressing to listen to the crowd acclaiming the overweight "god" riding Roy Evans around the training ground and the diligent Owen training hard, playing hard but being criticised all the time because he wanted to play for England(a field Robbie could never establish himself in) probably because of the same lack of commitment he showed to Liverpool in the spice boys era. Both talents have been wasted in different ways although we are very fortunate to have produced both. It seems strange that some of our most fervent and committed players have been imported i.e Kenny,Billy Liddell and Ian St.John -excluding Carra and Tommy Smith.