honourablegeorge

OT - Estadio de Manuel ruiz Lopera is funny, you walk around this impressive concrete bowl, it looks good, and then, it just....stops. And there's steel rods hanging out the end of the concrete where they just gave up building. And all them houses with balconies looking over the old terrace. Handy that. Seville's a beautiful spot too.

It's been announced, apparently.

Definitely. We shouldn't rush him back befor ethe final.

Nonsense. Kewell will be fit soon. It'll be like having a new player. *tries to keep straight face*

Central midfield forces him to be more disciplined, somethign he hasn't always done in the past, but has done recently. It robs us of his attacking instincts though, and we do miss those.

Was in Seville a few days ago, and got to see the Betis-Barca game. Was really surprised with Barca, they lookd incredibly ineffective without Eto'o. Betis really got a them in the wide areas too, I think Gerrard could hurt them. And all their play seemed to come through the centre (where Saviola was totally ineffective) so I can see the sense of two holding players to block them - Betis doubled and tripled up on Ronaldinho every time he got the ball. I didn't see much for us to worry about. Of course, Eto'o is another matter altogether.

Wed on;t have an £80M debt, so it's hardly an issue, really.

Morientes was a failure, though he did try his heart out. He'd have to have been about ten times as bad as he was to warrant us not laughing at Beattie though.

It's not just beef, it's an organically farmed, slow cooked beef with a mediterranean peppered crust.

Imagine if Benitez had said that there were only two teams in Liverpool, Liverpool and the reserves, or that if Everton were to play in his back garden, he'd draw the curtains. f***in' whinging bitter knobs.

Saddens me to say it, but I'd much rather have him as an option than Fowler. I wasn't too pleased to see Robbie come on on Sunday.

Ballack's proven class. Mascherano's got it all to prove. I'm stopping here. I'm not going down a "praising Chelsea" route. It already feels dirtier than the time I found that magazine in that hedge.

We never cease to amaze. We even managed to play the World Club Champs without dropping out of the FA Cup.

You could argue that Lampard, Ballack, Makelele and Essien are a match for that four. And that technically, Zenden is one of our four, but Mascherano isn't.....

Is that definite, Kev?

"If Max Clifford is so good at PR, why does everyone think he's a c***?" (from Viz)

Dunno if it's in any way relevant, but according to this article, Steve Morgan shares Gillett's "vision of the future". http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2004344,00.html

Attendances mean millions. United make a £2M profit (source - me mate, so don't hang me here) on every home game. That's £60M plus every year. I'd love to know how our match income compared. Not very well, I'd imagine. Arsenal wouldn't have put up a £400M stadium if match incomes meant nothing.

There's loads that doesn't hold up. I'm pretty sure I read earlier in the week that both DIC and Gillett representatives attended the board meeting on the Monday.

If we wanted to be stupidly positive about it all, you could take the view that they did all that bigging up of DIC because it was a really, really good deal. But they then ditched it, for an even better deal.

And more from Bascombe http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0500liv...-name_page.html

"You must be mad" say DIC http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0500liv...-name_page.html

Chief executive Rick Parry told the ECHO today: ?While we have always had a good relationship with George Gillett, it?s clear the involvement of Tom Hicks adds another dimension and considerable strength to the bid, and was a very significant factor in us looking afresh at the proposals.? http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0500liv...-name_page.html

The fact that this Hicks bloke has appeared is a major factor, surely? He's totally changed way the Gillett bid is financed and structured, I'd imagine.

Snippet about West Ham, from some forum or other, I got it via mail: "Someone I know was speaking to a West Ham player (both parties shall remain nameless on here - but the player is somebody who has largely been above criticism) last night. The player can't believe what is going on at the club. After the game, he spoke to Reo-Coker who was determined to go out on the lash. Our man questioned the wisdom of this what with the Liverpool game on Tuesday only to be told "I don't give a f*ck!" The player reckons that Reo-Coker was a disgrace yesterday and has a s*** attitude generally. Like many of us he believes that there are five players who have formed a clique in the playing staff that is completely disruptive. Nobody will be surprised when I name them as (in order of disruptiveness): NRC, Ferdinand, Cole, Mullins and Harewood. So upset is he at what is going on, he promised to be going in to see Curbishley about it "