DJS

He doesn't, though. Seen Gerrard say, when questioned about the best manager he's ever played under, "Tactically, Rafa".

Depends who it is. Some of our ex players are as clueless as some of our current ones.

They're a laughable organisation.

This is exactly the agenda driven sh*t Sky always come up with. The other day, after Mourinho was sacked, they put up a graphic comparing Pedro's stats for the season with De Bruyne's. It was utterly irrelevant that this random stats comparison had nothing to do with the main news story - the message was clear, they only didn't say it outright. I'm not bothered about Chelsea but it's exactly what Sky do. They drive their chosen agenda while trying to disguise it as 'insight' and 'analysis'. The brainless sheep brigade that makes up a large portion of their audience just swallows it & that's how nonsensical bullsh*t becomes what's seen as factual.

Yeah but i'm not ars*d about the mancs or chelsea.

Possibly. I wouldnt be surprised if we dropped further than 5 points off it between now and any new signings coming in, though. And goalkeeper. And defenders. And centre mids. And creative attacking mid. They are better than Watford's or Newcastle's though, no?

What do you base that on Wayne? Could do with a bit of cheering up.

That's the point. Our biggest issue is one of attitude.

We certainly have a good few who arent as good as the prices we paid for them. But f*ck me, theyre still better than Watford & Newcastle. I genuinely had never heard of four of Watford's starting eleven today. We've got far more quality than sides like that. The players are just not even giving 60%. Go to places like that working hard & fighting for everything - and 9 times out of 10, we beat sides like that.

Of course that's football and yes, it happens. But when it happens twice in a row, with away games at sides who really shouldnt be troubling us in terms of talent/quality, then it's highly alarming. I thought the Newcastle shambles would've served as a lesson, but the same cowardly & gutless bullsh*t struck again today. To be beaten because we're getting outfought & not wanting it enough, twice in a fortnight, takes it beyond the normal "that's football" mantra, for me. Normally, when 'it happens', you learn from it and see a reaction. The fact that today was even worse than Newcastle in terms of desire & effort, suggests to me that they're not really that f*cked about it.

I dont disagree generally about the quality of some of our players. But we still have more quality than Newcastle & Watford. If our players matched the fight and desire of both of their's, we'd have won both games. The fact is though, they dont look a*sed. Watford & Newcastle both wanted it more than us, which is unacceptable in the extreme. If it was feasible, I reckon Klopp would happily boot out anything between 6 and 10 of this squad.

Problem is, his finishing is hit and miss at best. More often miss.

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Was thinking the same. 6pts out of those is bare minimum. 9 would be pretty good.

The presser is 10am. 8am is when LFC TV are showing their interview with him, that was recorded tonight.

SSN just showed the footage from outside Klopp's house in Germany, where they spoke to him through the intercom & told them 'from tomorrow, I am 24/7 a Liverpool man'.

Haha it's astonishing if he really is on a pittance compared to some of his counterparts. Especially considering City aren't really know for doing things on the cheap

If they've got that right, Pellegrini's working for minimum wage. Can't see it somehow.

He isnt consistent either https://twitter.com/davelfc1984/status/651714044601237504

I love the fact that he walked home from one of their CL games.

Didn't think any bookies were even still taking bets on it, to be honest.

I'll give that a listen when I'm more awake. How long is it?