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make sure theres an option for those who are unsure

dont think it was sung at the mancs game. unless im going deaf, was in the Kop and didnt hear it. tonight was the first time ive heard it

thought it was class when heard it tonight i bet he loves it too

i agree, i couldnt believe my ears when i heard 'keano keano' being sung. god knows what oliver kay will have to say about it. I wonder will he mention that united fans sang it first

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ha ha! good man dirk! dunno how you do it son but the CL s god to you. rght at the keeper aswell! we'll be comin', we'll be comin...!

im expecting a shortly!

get out of it will ya, i didnt even thnk of that! the poll will still be here for them after.

i know i thought about putting it in but i though it better to just get the views of those not sitting on the fence. from reading the thread it seems to be very black and white and polarising people. although i wish i had not put the 'no its just not right' option so definitive. it should be less forthright

I think thats where we all diverge. or at least I do. I dont believe there is a risk thats it could be misnterpreted. i believe that it is a guarantee that it will be misinterpreted. I also do care if the media pick up on this. i believe it will be twisted and blown out of proportion so as to demonise our fans, tae attention away from the pitch and give oppositin fans more ammunition with which to goad us, and therefore the whole point of the chant will backfire and serve to arm opposing fams with more abuse and make them more vocal, rather than shut them up which is one of the aims of the chant from what ive read on here

what do you to those of us who think that although it isnt about heysel, it will be perceived to be about heysel. or do you not care about the perception? and i dont mean that to be read in any manner. genuine question

no need to discuss in here while other thread is going along. unless we can amalgamate the 2?

absolutely mate, thats why i dont think people should be referring to Hillsborough, the chant is clearly not related and bringing it up only clouds the issues and the issue gets uneccessarily emotive.

i dont think this thread has anything to do with hillsborough so can we stop referring to it in this context.

hang ona second, i thought this was nothing to do with hillsborough? i dont think it can even be perceived as being related to hillsborough. I am totally opposed to the chant yet i see no relevance of it to hillsborough. my main reasons for objecting is that i think its distasteful and unneccessary and offensive to victims of heysel. but nothing to do with hillsborough. so i dont see your point is what im saying

because its f**king obvious they would not understand. jeeesus! if the juve fans started doing the same thing about our fans dying in Heysel we would be f**king livid. FACT i dont think its even up for debate that families affected by heysel would even consider it appropriate or at best understand why some of us are singing it

thats the thing, we all get that the intention and motive behind singing the song is nothing to do with Heysel from the point of view of those who advocate singing this chant. however, it remains a fact and an undeniable one at that, that the perception from a substantial part of our own fans is that it can not be divorced from Heysel. If most of us perceive that, you can bet your life on it that non-liverpool supporters and in particular italian families affected by Heysel and the media will find it inconceivable that there is no perceived reference to Heysel. for that very reason alone I think people should stop singing the chant, look beyond themselves and beyond what they think they are singing about and recognise the obvious perception of what the song is about. I don't see how singing the chant is gaining anything, it doesn;t mean we reclaim the murderers jibe, other teams will never stop singing that, and if anyone really thinks opposng fans when they hear us chant '2-0 to the murderers' are going to turn around to each other and say 'hats off to the scousers, they've got us there, we must find another way of abusing them now' then sorry lads but its not gonna happen

utter nonsense. standing up for yourself is singing that? why do we have to stand up for ourselves all of a sudden? we get abuse from fans all the time,just like we give it. you'd swear we were the only ones. just cheer on your f**king team and give the other fans stick when you want but all this nonsense of making a stand is ridiculous. we are Liverpool FC supporters, supporters of a football club and all it stands for, and if supporting liverpool means singing that sh*te about myself and fellow supporters then its a sorry f**king day