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Exactly. He actually did nothing of note here. Especially compared to Origi but some people are acting like he's a loss for this season! I've nothing against the lad and wish him well but find it strange. Hype indeed.

7 is a good total for a winger / wide player in the PL. However looking at his stats on Transfermarkt he also got subbed alot in PL games he did start. It points to something about his general level of performance. Perhaps its his level of fintess / tires in games etc.

Agree overall re Wilson - he a bit of a strange one. He seems to be a good dead ball specialist and has a knack of scoring goals. Problem is if he's not scoring goals he doesn't appear to contribute alot in open play. Perhaps if he gets more consistency he could make it at a mid table PL club. '

I agree at the moment. Brewster was here last season up until early Jan yet from what I recall Klopp consistently picked Origi ahead of him for PL match day squads. If Brewster was really that talented surely he'd have moved up the pecking order ahead of (an inconsistent) Origi And Brewster had been fit since the Barca home semi so his injury shouldn't have been an issue. Perhaps he will turn into a really good player but he's better off elsewhere for now but I'm trusting Klopp and his team here . Good deal all round me thinks

Where will Jota most likely play?

Not sure about that. Even if Brewster and Hoever did turn out to be decent international class players, we have just signed one of the best CMs in the world! At the moment neither are getting in our matchday squad. THis is 90% upside for us

that doesn't make a difference to me whether he is 20 or even up to 24 - it is more his improvement trajectory over last few years and next few that our 'transfer committee' seem to be most concerned about. For example if we look at Mo, Sadio and VVD when they were 22 and where the were at, few would be predicting the players they are now. Mo did join Chelsea at 22 but from what I recall it wasn't viewed as a major signing at the time.

True I was just using the 37 to show there's lots of game time. Our front 3 have been incredibly robust over last 3 seasons in PL. They've started almost every PL game minus a total of 15 (Excluding Bobby 3 seasons back) , So full credit to them and the back room conditioning team. I'd just be very surprised if they have that 'run' in to a fourth season.

True though hasn't looked up to the required level yet in my opinion.( I don't trust pre season as a good indicator) Maybe he will come good given he has now had time to bed in re our systems and physical conditioning etc. Time will tell.

Maybe the club didn't want Werner but my point is more relate to another quality forward.

If we signed Werner (or another quality forward) similiar or just below the level our current front 3 he wouldn't sit on the bench though. We will play 38 PL games plus (e.g) 10 champs leages ganes and 2 other key matches = 50 games x 3 starting forward berths per game = 150 150 divide by 4 forward players = approx 37 starts each. That doesn't include sub appearances, injuries or international tournaments etc. Point is there will loads of opportunities for Mane, Salah, Bobby plus one other top class forward. throughout the season. THe competition is good too.

We have no 'real depth' across out front three. Is our squad any bigger than other teams competing for the Premier league and / or European cup? I doubt it.

It can't be that hard for us to shift Karius, Shaqiri and Grujic if we really want to? In terms of wages I guess Karius is on 40k to 50K per week given we only paid 5 mill and he came to challenge Mingolet. Shaquri on 40 - 50K given his fee and age.... Grujic on 20K roughly? So not on massive money In terms of transfer valuations none of them are going for mega money so even if we have to slightly drop price to sell it won't have a massive impact. So I don't really see how these players would hinder us from signing new players? As in we can shift them. If we had an Alexis Sanchez or Ozil type 400K per week scenario that would be a hindrance

I think both these points are relevant for a short period of time before lockdown too. E.g. Our finishing v Atleti, defending against wolves waford, west ham games - chances conceded etc

He scored 10 in 20 in the championship - not exactly setting the world alight but decent. Way to early to suggest he can do it at top level.

I'm not Origi 's biggest fan but we can't compare Brewster to him yet. And the fact Klopp is talking about sending him on loan again would suggest he is not ready to play the Origi role. 3-4 month loan spell to another PL team where he would get some minutes (Off the bench is fine) to see what level he is at would be best.

Just thinking the same. Otherwise final would be like when Prem teams used to roll over to Mancs back in the day. Of course PSG could still f**k this up.

I'm 1. Lyon 2. Leipzig 3. PSG (Yes they're c'**ts but if they win it this year they won't care next year about it. Plus they've never won it) 4.Bayern (Only one behind us - probably will win it) 5. Barca (Only one behind us) 6. City As an aside I know Barca are c**ts for many reasons including the Suarez, Coutinno stuff etc but they did stop a good Manc team in 2009 and 2011 so I give them a pass

We didn't do our stuff upfromt and got what we deserved against an average Atleti team. It still pisses me off big time. We would have been thereabouts again. Arrrghhhhhhh.

I'd still like a quality 4th attacker for front 3. We play approx. 50 games next season excl league cup - so that's 150 front 3 slots. Even if they are all fit that's 37-38 starts for each attacker. Perhapa one of Brewster, Minamino or Elliot (still v young) can step.up do the job but at the moment it looks a big drop off.

Hypothetically speaking where would Phil play in our current system? I feel He doesn't have legs / energy for midfield. He doesn't have the speed for wide front 3. He couldnt play the Bobby role.

Better to wait for the Netflix mini series

Christ how can you take such an inspirational figure like Klopp and make such a sh!te programme. I thought there would be alot more on the making of the man etc

My fear is similar to this. Klopp has been in genius mode for the last 2 seasons. Trying to do that again with exact same players and no real reinforcements is s huge challenge. anyway we will see how we go over next month.

I do feel we need to strengthen/ freshen things up this year. Our consistency over last 2 seasons has been unbelievable but I fear it may be too big an ask for klopp to do it 3 years in row. Had any anyone done it with basically exact same 11 3 years in a row? Or maybe I'm talking bollix?