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Drug addicts across the UK are being offered money to be sterilised by an American charity.

 

Project Prevention is offering to pay £200 to any drug user in London, Glasgow, Bristol, Leicester and parts of Wales who agrees to be operated on.

 

The first person in the UK to accept the cash is drug addict "John" from Leicester who says he "should never be a father".

 

The move has been criticised by some drug charities who work with addicts.

 

Project Prevention founder Barbara Harris admitted her methods amounted to "bribery", but said it was the only way to stop babies being physically and mentally damaged by drugs during pregnancy.

 

Drug treatment charity Addaction estimates one million children in the UK are living with parents who abuse drugs.

 

Pregnant addicts can pass on the dependency to the unborn child, leading to organ and brain damage.

 

Mrs Harris set up her charity in North Carolina after adopting the children of a crack addict.

 

Speaking to the BBC's Inside Out programme, she said: "The birth mother of my children obviously dabbled in all drugs and alcohol - she literally had a baby every year for eight years.

 

"I get very angry about the damage that drugs do to these children."

 

After paying 3,500 addicts across the United States not to have children, she is now visiting parts of the UK blighted by drugs to encourage users to undergo "long-term birth control" for cash.

 

John, a 38-year-old addict from Leicester, is the first person in the UK to accept money to have a vasectomy after being involved in drugs since he was 12.

 

He said: "It was something that I'd been thinking about for a long time.

 

"I won't be able to support a kid; I can just about manage to support myself."

 

Simon Antrobus, chief executive of Addaction, said while no-one wanted to see children brought up in a drug-using environment, there was no place for Project Prevention in the UK.

 

"It exploits very vulnerable people who are addicted to drugs and alcohol at probably the lowest point in their lives," he said.

 

The Reverend Robert Black, of Victory Outreach, which works with former addicts in east London, said he thought Project Prevention's aims were "very devious".

 

Maria Cripps, project manager at the Hackney Dovetail Centre which works with drug users and their carers, said: "I think Barbara uses some very extreme examples to get her point across. It might work in America but Great Britain is a very different country."

 

But Reverend Martin Blakebrough, director of Camden's Kaleidoscope Project in north London, said sterilisation was "worth considering" if it was right for the individual.

 

A spokesperson at the British Medical Association said: "The BMA's ethics committee does not have a view on the charity Project Prevention.

 

"As with all requests for treatment, doctors need to be confident that the individual has the capacity to make the specific decision at the time the decision is required.

 

"The BMA's ethics committee also believes that doctors should inform patients of the benefits of reversible contraception so that the patients have more reproductive choices in the future."

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Conservative voters across the UK are being offered money to be sterilised by an American charity.

 

Project Prevention is offering to pay £200 to any Conservative voter in London, Glasgow, Bristol, Leicester and parts of Wales who agrees to be operated on.

 

The first tory in the UK to accept the cash is drug addict "John" from Leicester who says he "should never be a father".

 

The move has been criticised by some drug charities who work with Conservatives.

 

Project Prevention founder Barbara Harris admitted her methods amounted to "bribery", but said it was the only way to stop babies being physically and mentally damaged by Tory policies during pregnancy.

 

Drug treatment charity Addaction estimates one million children in the UK are living with parents who vote Conservative..

 

Conservative voters can pass on the dependency to the unborn child, leading to organ and brain damage.

 

Mrs Harris set up her charity in North Carolina after adopting the children of a Republican voter.

 

Speaking to the BBC's Inside Out programme, she said: "The birth mother of my children obviously dabbled in all kinds of right wing dogma- she literally voted for Tories every time in the last eight years.

 

"I get very angry about the damage that conservative policies do to these children."

 

After paying 3,500 Republicans across the United States not to have children, she is now visiting parts of the UK blighted by Tories to encourage voters to undergo "long-term birth control" for cash.

 

John, a 38-year-old Conservative from Leicester, is the first person in the UK to accept money to have a vasectomy after being voting Tory since he was 12.

 

He said: "It was something that I'd been thinking about for a long time.

 

"I won't be able to support a kid; I can just about manage to support myself now that we are in power."

 

Simon Antrobus, chief executive of Addaction, said while no-one wanted to see children brought up in a Conservative voting environment, there was no place for Project Prevention in the UK.

 

"It exploits very vulnerable people who vote Tory and UKIP at probably the lowest point in their lives," he said.

 

The Reverend Robert Black, of Victory Outreach, which works with former Tories in east London, said he thought Project Prevention's aims were "very devious".

 

Maria Cripps, project manager at the Hackney Dovetail Centre which works with Conservativesand their carers, said: "I think Barbara uses some very extreme examples to get her point across. It might work in America but Great Britain is a very different country."

 

But Reverend Martin Blakebrough, director of Camden's Kaleidoscope Project in north London, said sterilisation was "worth considering" if it was right for the individual.

 

A spokesperson at the Labour Party said: "The Labour Partys ethics committee does not have a view on the charity Project Prevention.

 

"As with all requests for treatment, doctors need to be confident that the individual has the capacity to make the specific decision at the time the decision is required.

 

"The Labour Partys ethics committee also believes that doctors should inform patients of the benefits of never voting Tory so that the patients have more productive choices in the future."

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Charity offers UK drug addicts £200 to be sterilised

Drug addicts across the UK are being offered money to be sterilised by an American charity.

 

Project Prevention is offering to pay £200 to any drug user in London, Glasgow, Bristol, Leicester and parts of Wales who agrees to be operated on.

 

The first person in the UK to accept the cash is drug addict "John" from Leicester who says he "should never be a father".

 

The move has been criticised by some drug charities who work with addicts.

 

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Project Prevention founder Barbara Harris admitted her methods amounted to "bribery", but said it was the only way to stop babies being physically and mentally damaged by drugs during pregnancy.

 

Drug treatment charity Addaction estimates one million children in the UK are living with parents who abuse drugs.

 

Pregnant addicts can pass on the dependency to the unborn child, leading to organ and brain damage.

 

Mrs Harris set up her charity in North Carolina after adopting the children of a crack addict.

 

Damage to childrenSpeaking to the BBC's Inside Out programme, she said: "The birth mother of my children obviously dabbled in all drugs and alcohol - she literally had a baby every year for eight years.

 

"I get very angry about the damage that drugs do to these children."

 

After paying 3,500 addicts across the United States not to have children, she is now visiting parts of the UK blighted by drugs to encourage users to undergo "long-term birth control" for cash.

 

John, a 38-year-old addict from Leicester, is the first person in the UK to accept money to have a vasectomy after being involved in drugs since he was 12.

 

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It might work in America but Great Britain is a very different country”

 

Maria CrippsDovetail CentreHe said: "It was something that I'd been thinking about for a long time.

 

"I won't be able to support a kid; I can just about manage to support myself."

 

Simon Antrobus, chief executive of Addaction, said while no-one wanted to see children brought up in a drug-using environment, there was no place for Project Prevention in the UK.

 

"It exploits very vulnerable people who are addicted to drugs and alcohol at probably the lowest point in their lives," he said.

 

The Reverend Robert Black, of Victory Outreach, which works with former addicts in east London, said he thought Project Prevention's aims were "very devious".

 

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I'm at a loss to how this is even being debated as possibly a good thing.

 

Its basically a form of Nazi eugenics isn't it? Sterilising people with illnesses.

Effectively. I'm shocked this is being reported without a hint of repulsion from any news organisation.

 

And my blood boils when I see this c*** say this:

 

But Reverend Martin Blakebrough, director of Camden's Kaleidoscope Project in north London, said sterilisation was "worth considering" if it was right for the individual.

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I'm at a loss to how this is even being debated as possibly a good thing.

 

Its basically a form of Nazi eugenics isn't it? Sterilising people with illnesses.

yes, via the guise of 'concern'. Disgusting 'right-minded' sh*t.

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This is them.

 

Looks like they think it should be illegal for drugs addicts to have kids too.

 

I knew a girl who was a terrible addict who had a kid that was taken off her and ended up being adopted by someone on the same estate (maybe a family member I think) and then eight years later she had another kid. It was when I was still using and I'd go over there and she really was a disgrace, but the dad, who was a junkie too, tried his best. I lost touch with them when the baby was only six months old, but I heard the kid was eventually taken off them. At the time I did think that they should never have been able to have another baby, but I've also known people with habits who've been better, more attentive parents than people without. I'm sure they'd have been better parents still if they'd been clean, and growing up with junkie parents has to skew something in you as some things go out the window when heroin comes in. There are many, many ways to f*** your kids up though and taking drugs is just one of the most obvious. Most of the junkies I've known have been born in non-drug taking families, maybe we should identify what it is that makes them into junkies and then sterilise the parents of potential drug addicts.

 

I understand how working with kids who've been severely affected both physically and emotionally by their parents' drug taking, but this can't be the way forward. Their website doesn't contain a word about legalisation, which though complicated, is the only solution I can see to the manifold problems that prohibition causes.

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Sure a deent lawyer could have a field day with this...

 

I take the cash, get snipped and a year later get clean and sette down

 

I REALLY want to be a parent but I am snipped. But the decision to do that was made when my metal faculties were diminished by drugs. There's enough evidence now to say that addiction is an illness, rather than a choice or dependency.... so because I was ill, you took advantage of me and took a pair os shears to my nethers.

 

I reckon if it came to it, a lawyer might well take that on....

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Sure a deent lawyer could have a field day with this...

 

I take the cash, get snipped and a year later get clean and sette down

 

I REALLY want to be a parent but I am snipped. But the decision to do that was made when my metal faculties were diminished by drugs. There's enough evidence now to say that addiction is an illness, rather than a choice or dependency.... so because I was ill, you took advantage of me and took a pair os shears to my nethers.

 

I reckon if it came to it, a lawyer might well take that on....

 

good point

if your faculties are so shot that you have to be snipped for the good of society, how can you make such an important decision in the first place?

 

amazed the risk of subsequent action is being run in the Sates, of all places

 

my cousin is an attorney in Florida - think I'll mark his card

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This is them.

 

Looks like they think it should be illegal for drugs addicts to have kids too.

 

I knew a girl who was a terrible addict who had a kid that was taken off her and ended up being adopted by someone on the same estate (maybe a family member I think) and then eight years later she had another kid. It was when I was still using and I'd go over there and she really was a disgrace, but the dad, who was a junkie too, tried his best. I lost touch with them when the baby was only six months old, but I heard the kid was eventually taken off them. At the time I did think that they should never have been able to have another baby, but I've also known people with habits who've been better, more attentive parents than people without. I'm sure they'd have been better parents still if they'd been clean, and growing up with junkie parents has to skew something in you as some things go out the window when heroin comes in. There are many, many ways to f*** your kids up though and taking drugs is just one of the most obvious. Most of the junkies I've known have been born in non-drug taking families, maybe we should identify what it is that makes them into junkies and then sterilise the parents of potential drug addicts.

 

I understand how working with kids who've been severely affected both physically and emotionally by their parents' drug taking, but this can't be the way forward. Their website doesn't contain a word about legalisation, which though complicated, is the only solution I can see to the manifold problems that prohibition causes.

 

Good post.

 

I'm of the opinion that a mother who carries on smoking tabs when pregnant is abusing her unborn and being irresponsible. I dont think anyone wants to see kids born to and nurtured by parents off their t***. That said there has to be a more supportive and progressive solution than this heavy handed nonsense.

 

Paxman was doing a good impression of someone in favour of it last night and while i accept he has to show some balance it was disappointing to see.

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