I accept your comments, but think for the most part, its a bit drama queen. Most clubs have an element of turmoil doing on anyway, some more than others. We, however, are one of the more stable. we have consistantly been winning trophies. We haven't pawned ourselves to the outside world. We haven't over marketed, or made decisions that made financial, but not football sense. Yes we have made mistakes, but everyone does. Where do you work? do you think it is perfect? that there is nothing wrong? What you are doing is what Michael Owen did when he left. 'Look what they have, its nice and shiny and big and pretty and I want it!!!' look what happened to him. What liverpool do have is a world wide reputation, we are known for giving our managers time to mould and build the team. Regardless of what anyone says, every liverpool manager has had funds to buy players. the new TV deal kicks is this season. that means less money. We also are not getting the money we should this season because of the FA and the bluescum across the park. I'm not going to go through the list you made, because mistakes have been made. However, signing owen is not a mistake, that was a good decision. the mistake was not selling him before. however, was that Parry's mistake, or Houlliers? SHOULD that be the boards decision or players? what about Arsenal? Edu and wiltord left for free. Does that mean the board should be sacked? they haven't won in europe for ages. should they be sacked? Look around, and you will realise, that at liverpool, we actually have it really good. We have the best manager in Europe, we have stable (if not spectacular) finances and a great team. And we currently rule europe. It could be worse. We could be the comedy club, leeds, in 270million debt, owned by the russian mafia, or a team of players with no passion for the club, or change managers 3 times in a season. but we are not. we are liverpool fc, run by a competant steady excutive board, who trust the manager, and frankly, look at the trophy cabinet. we have delivered. the title is the ONLY trophy that we have not won. Look at the other clubs. what have they NOT won yet? Really, changing the board is a desperate measure, and we do not need desperate measures yet.