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It is more than likely to be "La Seleccion" or something similar, which usually denotes their team of choice in the region.

In short yes. However, the longer version requires a brief explanation. I feel that it is imperative to replace one top player with a player who is on the cusp of greatness, much like Suarez and Nando were before they were procured.

Unfortunately not, dear sir. I must confess that I am merely a pauper when compared to such a fine individual. Toot toot.

A fine question. One must consider numerous possibilities, but ultimately, it is a curious dilemma that we must ponder upon to deliver an upstanding verdict and enable forward progression of the debate. in the first instance, one must be sure to question the validity of Suarez's intentions. Is he willing to stay? Is he of the mindset to stay and be productive? I am firmly of the opinion that in the long nighted months of summer, Mr Suarez will solely be interested in Liverpool Football Club. If we disregard this basic fact with nonchalant ease, it is possible that he will move, with Barcelona post-Pep his most likely destination. In that scenario, I would prefer a player of similar stature to both Torres, and indeed Suarez, being brought quickly into the club to fill the vacant void and allow the seasons to progress in an interesting fashion.

Piara Power on SSN now.

It is as true as Kenny being manager. http://www.cumberlandfa.com/NR/rdonlyres/F1E8DE93-4517-41C7-9560-9EAF1D635542/0/TheFARespectHandshake.pdf

Interesting point on SSN just past about written handshake protocol (silly i know, but it exists) - Apparently the protocol is that the home team approach the away team for the handshakes, ie the Liverpool team should have been stationary and Evra should have led his team down the Liverpool line. Saturday was the first time this season that an away team has "led" the handshake at Old Trafford this season. The obviously implication of this is that if Evra was moving along the Liverpool line, the onus would have been on him to produce his hand for Suarez. Interesting, to say the least.

If one removes the early sentiment, this is a good post.

The underlying tone has fulfilled point (i) over all, especially Dalglishs remark of "he should never have been banned", and look how people reacted to that. Doing the above would have merely exacerbated the situation.

But ultimately correct. If I may be blunt for a short moment, I am not a fan of side sniping nor in fighting so I would prefer, nay, encourage, less discussion about my good self and more discussion about the matter at hand, the apologies that have been delivered. I myself am pleased that we have presented ourselves with an opening to move on from this so called "racism row".

You can - by seeing if they are correct or not. They invariably are the former.

It is neither. I am a handsome chap with a developed interest in many areas of football. I simply share my opinion and it the duty of others to either accept or reject my hypotheses.

It is not spam, it is a spot on commentary of what has happened over the last day. I am bemused, to say the least, that persons are upset with how this has panned given that a) this was likely to happen, and b) Suarez reneged on his promises to the club about the handshake.

Certain parties in this thread are behaving in a wholesomely embarrassing fashion. As I mused (correctly) earlier, anything that would come out of this incident was going to be damage limitation, and to hate upon the club, Ayre, and anyone else who dares not follow what these parties believe to be the appropriate head-in-sand manouevre is nothing short of ludicrous. The unfortunate reality is that this was the likely end to this situation, especially when the circumstances are considered closely. Suarez has acted as nothing short of a fool if he previously told the club he would shake hands and reneged on that agreement. As I mused at the time, such happenings were likely to explain Kennys attitude to questions on the subject yesterday. You cannot state one thing to the club, your manager, and the people upstairs and then proceed to do another. That is just stupid and pig-headed. . The numerous statements and apologies arising would suggest to me that this has come from the top and Henry has decided enough is enough. I seriously doubt Ayre, or indeed Kenny, have just decided to issue apologies of their own remit. I must confess, I do not blame Henry for his actions in this situation. Its time for all to move on and this was the only way in which it was going to happen. Contrary to popular belief, walking into the next press conference with a list of facts about Ferguson was not going to alleviate the pressure on the club, and would only serve as more ammunition for the club to be accused of bitterness and lashing out to deflect attention. As for all those who claim they are disgusted at the club, I find that severely amusing, as I have noted that several of those are persons who delight in calling other users "Manc" when they dare to question a player.

This sounds like paranoia more than anything else. We need to stay calm and think rationally.

is it?

but but but this is all about principles *whimper* this is a strange thread. on one hand we have persons calling for better PR management, and on other, other persons (with some remit for overlap) calling for the club to stand firm and offer no attempt at cooling this situation. unfortunately better PR management dictates damage limitation at this point in time.

I can think of nothing more damaging for the club than to waltz into 10 Downing Street and act in the manner that the third paragraph suggests.

It amuses me greatly that so many of the stalwart media outlets in this country squeal for freedom of press, and of information, (and rightly so) but are more than happy to censor comments on their own websites that do not tow the line.

Has any sensible journalist taken the angle of how pathetic the FA Respect campaign is, given that most people seem to think this situation, whilst obviously being pushed further by what has passed, has arisen due to lack of respect and breaking a stupid code of conduct that involves a forced ritual? Look at this list, it is fairly laughable. The FA Respect code of conduct Show respect to others involved in the game including match officials, opposition players, coaches, managers, officials and spectatorsAdhere to the laws and spirit of the gamePromote Fair Play and high standards of behaviourAlways respect the match official's decisionNever enter the field of play without the referee's permissionNever engage in public criticism of the match officialsNever engage in, or tolerate, offensive, insulting or abusive language or behaviour

As some light hearted relief, and following on from todays tunnel fracas, I feel it would be interesting to discuss who you would not like to trade punches with. As a loose guideline I will allow you to give one current squad member and one past hero. I would personally go for Agger, and Souness.

Standing together has nothing to do with spouting off in the media about other managers and clubs. The media dont care about the club, nor what we have to say. Whatever we put out there will be passed over or spun to suit the Suarez incident and the surrounding furore. Its not feasible to think that Kenny should approach some journalists, tell them that Ferguson stuck with Cantona and be able to walk smugly into the sunset knowing that the negative press will disappear and that we have "defended" ourselves. It doesnt work like that.

On the front foot in what regard? Personally, I believe the damage has been done and we shall be stuck with this problem for a few seasons - lashing out at Ferguson will be labelled by the press as a desperate tactic and wont deter them from further continuation of the already noted headlines. On the front foot in what regard? Personally, I believe the damage has been done and we shall be stuck with this problem for a few seasons - lashing out at Ferguson will be labelled by the press as a desperate tactic and wont deter them from further continuation of the already noted headlines.

What good will this do?

Can you please explain why his post is "utter" nonsense? I regularly see yourself, amongst others, traipse around the forum offering nothing more than petty insults akin to the above, and "Manc" etc, whilst offering no constructive debate or somment. It is both perplexing and unfunny.