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Anybody here amongst the 2,000 present for his talk in the R.D.S. last night? He's on Newstalk 106 at the minute being regularly interrupted by Dunphy. It's the first time I've heard him giving forth.

 

Very impressive (a few more dick jokes, of course, and he'd be a real heavyweight :rolleyes:?).

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Meant to get to that last night but had to work late. Heard it was meant to be a full house - any chance of a quick synopsis Coyler?

Well, I left work and then got the bus out to see the sprogeen and then had my dinner there and then went home and read a book and went to bed. Never had any tickets for Chomsky, you see. :(

 

He was good on the radio this morning, though; I don't know what I was expecting from him but I was very pleased. He covered a good range of topics. Dunphy was very much out of his depth, asking rambling questions rife with spoonerisms and slips of the tongue which the professor had to elucidate before answering; he was also occasionally interruptive, butting in to divert Chomsky's train of talk, often when he was saying things such as, ??and I'll give you an excellent example of that??. Very frustrating.

 

I've made it my life's ambition to be paraphrased by him in any context, so to start synopsizing his own talk would be a bit counter-productive. Plus I can't really remember, I was power-walking for most of it. In one ear and out the other. I think he sort of said that torture is, like, bad or something. Which was good.

 

 

 

(By the way, I see your lot took a beating on the homophobia debate in the European Parliament. Shame, that. At least they're standing up to the PC madness ;))

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I think he was banging on about how Iran would be crazy not to build a nuclear weapon, given how they are constantly threatened by Israel.

No, he quoted an Israeli military expert who said that from the Iranians' viewpoint they would be crazy not to try and obtain a nuclear weapon.

 

He also mentioned that this is in the context of the EU having reneged, under US pressure, on commitments to protect Iran from aggression which were given in return for Iran agreeing not to strive for nuclear capability.

 

He made no comparisons between the US and the Nazis. He did point out, when it was put to him that the US model of democracy is the ?less bad? system of government around, that a choice between two rich boys whose parties push agendas that are far to the right of American public opinion is as nothing compared with the recent democratic elections in Brazil where the people quite simply voted for somebody they, the people, wanted.

 

Or to put it another way, ?Is the US the most democratic state in the world?? ?They're not even the most democratic state in America? ;).

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Thats just not true. American public opinion is much further right than say, here, probably down to religion being part of more people's lives over there.

 

I think that may be true of those who vote - the religious organizations make big efforts to get their people out to vote - but probably not of the American public as a whole.

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from Indymedia

 

Prof Chomsky will in fact be delivering at least four different addresses in Dublin AFAIK.

 

There are three lectures being given in UCD, on the 17th, 19th and 20th. The lecture on the 18th was supposed to be in Trinity but was moved to the RDS due to space considerations. I believe it's titled "The War on Terror"

 

The talk on the 17th is in O'Reilly Hall in UCD and is titled " Democracy Promotion: Reflections on Intellectuals and the state". It isn't ticketed but seats are limited, probably to about 800 - 1000.

 

The talk on the 19th is being run by the Literary and Historical Society in conjunction with the Philosophy society. It's in Theatre L an Arts and is only open to members of the two societies. The title is "Stark, Dreadful, Inescapable: The Question of Survival"

 

The 20th is a specialist Linguistics lecture titled "Language and Thought". Its being run by the School of Philosophy and school of Linguistics in UCD. Its not really general interest, contact UCD School of Philosophy for details. The UCD main number is 01 716 0000

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That's pretty much how he put it, that these opinion polls (he said something about their availability/their being publicized/not publicized which I missed as I was crossing the road) unfailingly put the majority of Americans to the left of what is ever on offer by the two parties.

 

 

I think that may be true of those who vote - the religious organizations make big efforts to get their people out to vote - but probably not of the American public as a whole.

Fair enough, interesting. Not borne out in my experience living there for a while but that was only one state.

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Maryland actually, a blue state. But still far more right wing than I am.

 

I think Nick Griffin would have a problem being further right than there!

 

Is that anything like Virginia? - I drove across that state and EVERY radio channel I switched to has some kind of Christian Fundamentalist preacher between the songs.

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Is that anything like Virginia? - I drove across that state and EVERY radio channel I switched to has some kind of Christian Fundamentalist preacher between the songs.

No, Virginia is a red state. Maryland benefits from having a large corridor of bio-tech companies on the way west out of Washington, which attracts, ehem, a well educated crowd which in turn always a benefit to Democrats. Where I worked, all the academics voted Dem, whereas all support/admin staff voted Rep. Still, the Democrats included a few Christans with very different views to me on abortion, gun control etc.

 

Virginia on the other hand.....they had this chap, Jerry Kilgore, running for Governor when I was there (last summer) who made Rove look liberal. Believe he won as well.

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Just edited out the paper review, they seem to have cut out the start of the Chomsky interview from the podcast for some reason. The sound isn't great either. I'll have it uploaded in a while

Fair play to you. They only cut out Dunphy's (meandering, bumbling, clumsy, longwinded) opening question anyway.

 

Much appreciated. Johnny the Links strikes again. :thumbs:

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Dunphy was made seem very small time by Chomsky wasn't he, a lot of erroneous assumptions.

 

I find with Chomsky that sometimes his interviews can be a bit repetitive (usually the fault of the journo) I'd like somebody to play Devil's Advocate with him and put forward the neo-con perspective rather than fawn over him.

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