Dalglish

So far, so good. Now let's get Steaua and Borisov and everything's ok

Liverpool PSV Eindhoven

Draw has started, finally. Determination of groups ongoing. BBC commentary: Listen

CL draw: Legal Link

Skysports-website will broadcast it too. But it's not working for me so far...

Ther'as still hope... Sky Sports Thursday transfer clockwatch Last updated: 28th August 2008 Barclays Premiership 2008/09 Paper talk Liverpool forward Andriy Voronin has emerged as a transfer target for Nantes. The Ukrainian forward may not have many opportunities to impress this season and Rafa Benitez could decide to let him head to France.

1. Reina 2. Skrtel 3. Kuyt (for the goal)

As I said before - don't waste Kuyt on the right just because he can do a job there. Use him as an alternative for Torres and Keane because he is a striker.

We might see penalties soon enough.

El Zhar wearing blue boots?!?!

So much hoofing going on. Who can hit the ball the hardest?

Dossena lookalike coming on for Liege.

Schalke won 1:0 at home.

Atletico Madrid beat Schalke 04 4:0 (Luis Garcia scored) to claim a place in the Champions League.

I've seen 3 matches this season so far: Hertha away, Liege away and Liege home - all were nervy draws. I missed both of our league matches which were won. I'll miss the game on Sunday too - so that's another 3 points after a dour display wrapped up

Babel injured? Great, just great.

Liege sub Jovanovic for the winner...

Chelsea and ManU are trying to hit either the target or an opponent to get a lucky deflection. Our shots only threatening the health of spectators.

So is El Zhar the last attacking weapon we have left?

IMHO Kuyt is not the problem. Although he played an important role in the last season at RM he should be used as an alternative to Torres. Kuyt is the new Crouch.

It looks like our players are not having fun doing their jobs = playing football. No smile on Torres's face, just tension and maybe fear of making mistakes on their minds.

Torres will win it for us by creating a chance out of nothing.

If Degen is fit it will be interesting if he gives us more attacking options than Arbeloa while not forgetting to defend once in a while.

Shot by Alonso goes wide. Too many long passes resulting in losing possession at the moment. Lüttich looking very dangerous too.

We could do with a little bit of Corluka there.