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  1. BBC Worldwide up to their old tricks again? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sduc1HQpNoI 2 minutes 6 seconds into the clip http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=144589.0 I'm sorry to bring this topic up after a good night for the reds. I just caught the last episode (19/09/06) of "The Daily Show" and they used some footage of Hillsborough in one of their features entitled "Papa Don't Preach" (available to see at ComedyCentral.com) in a comedic context. There was about 3 seconds in all, but it just goes to show that ignorance continues to lead to horrible misuse of the tragedy. ---- I actually saw that particular John Stewart episode last night myself and immediately knew it was Hillsborough... and immediately felt pissed off, revolted and upset all in the one emotion because my cousin died there. Comedy or not, meaning to or not, it still f***ing hurt. End of. If someone doesn't understand the significance of the footage, don't f***ing use it! Simple. ------- The footage is owned by BBC Worldwide. They have promised after previous incidents that they would be far stricter in the sale of Hillsborough footage with regards to things like this. You can complain formally here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/ and here's some background info: http://www.contrast.org/hillsborough/bowling.shtm
  2. update: "Hi guys, Just to let you know that I have spoken to Gerry and Robbie regarding the bands, so things are moving forward. nidgemo has been asked if he could knock up a few designs so the guys at the HJC can pick their preferred design. I am awaiting one final quote, so will know soon how much is required to get things rolling. Thanks to everyone for offers of help and funding, I have been updating Gerry of the feedback received so far."
  3. his email address came straight from the Tory party website and his own personal website. The Spectator addresses come from their website. If you haven't had a reply/retraction within a week from the editor you can complain to the Press Complaints Commission.
  4. Boris Johnson contact email address: johnsonb@parliament.uk Other email addresses: spectator@solodigital.co.uk (for problems with the magazine) letters@spectator.co.uk
  5. http://www.spectator.co.uk/article.php?tab...4-10-16&id=5126 (you'll have to register - it's free and quick) It's the Leader section of the magazine (no author's name as that's the "Editorial" section). The Editor of the magazine is the Tory Shadow Arts Spokesman Boris Johnson.
  6. Bigley's fate The soccer international between England and Wales last Saturday managed to display in an instant two of the most unsavoury aspects of life in modern Britain. A request by the authorities for a minute?s silence in memory of Mr Ken Bigley, the news of whose murder by terrorists in Iraq had broken the previous day, was largely and ostentatiously ignored. Yet the fact that such a tribute was demanded in the first place emphasised the mawkish sentimentality of a society that has become hooked on grief and likes to wallow in a sense of vicarious victimhood. There had been a two-minute silence for Mr Bigley that same morning in Liverpool, according him the same respect offered annually to the million-and-a-half British servicemen who have died for their country since 1914. No one can make light of the appalling fate suffered by the hostage. His imprisonment, his witnessing of the shocking murders of his two fellow hostages and his own hideous decapitation by the psychopathic criminals who kidnapped him provide an object lesson in human depravity and barbarity. But we have lost our sense of proportion about such things. There have, as a correspondent to the Daily Telegraph pointed out this week, been no such outbreaks of national mourning whenever one of our brave soldiers is killed serving his country in Iraq. The extreme reaction to Mr Bigley?s murder is fed by the fact that he was a Liverpudlian. Liverpool is a handsome city with a tribal sense of community. A combination of economic misfortune ? its docks were, fundamentally, on the wrong side of England when Britain entered what is now the European Union ? and an excessive predilection for welfarism have created a peculiar, and deeply unattractive, psyche among many Liverpudlians. They see themselves whenever possible as victims, and resent their victim status; yet at the same time they wallow in it. Part of this flawed psychological state is that they cannot accept that they might have made any contribution to their misfortunes, but seek rather to blame someone else for it, thereby deepening their sense of shared tribal grievance against the rest of society. The deaths of more than 50 Liverpool football supporters at Hillsborough in 1989 was undeniably a greater tragedy than the single death, however horrible, of Mr Bigley; but that is no excuse for Liverpool?s failure to acknowledge, even to this day, the part played in the disaster by drunken fans at the back of the crowd who mindlessly tried to fight their way into the ground that Saturday afternoon. The police became a convenient scapegoat, and the Sun newspaper a whipping-boy for daring, albeit in a tasteless fashion, to hint at the wider causes of the incident. Now, part of the disproportionate convulsion of grief for Mr Bigley is prompted by the assertion that the Prime Minister has the hostage?s ?blood on his hands?. That is nonsense. None of us can say with perfect confidence how we would behave in such circumstances, and facing such psychological pressures, but in so far as Mr Bigley chose to blame Tony Blair or the British government, he was wrong. Only those who killed him have blood on their hands. The truth is that Ken Bigley sought to make a living by undertaking work in one of the most dangerous areas on the planet. He went there against the express advice of the Foreign Office. He chose to live with a pair of Americans and seemed unconcerned about his personal security. His motives and misjudgments do not lessen the horror and injustice of his death; but they should, without lessening our sympathy for him and his family, temper the outpouring of sentimentality in which many have engaged for him. It is a form of behaviour that was kick-started in this country after the death of an even more ambiguous figure, the late Diana, Princess of Wales. As a manifestation of our apparently depleted intelligence and sense of rationality, it bodes extremely badly for this country. Mr Bigley might not have read the last entries in Captain Scott?s journals, but they have a resonance for him: ?We took risks. We knew that we took them. Things have turned out against us. Therefore, we have no cause for complaint.? Captain Scott?s mentality used to be the norm for chancers and adventurers. Now, after generations of peace and welfarism, and in a society where the blame and compensation cultures go hand in hand, our modern-day buccaneers seem determined to go about their activities not merely unprepared for the likely consequences, but indignant about them. It is time we recognised that, in such a situation, it is not a breach of natural justice that the Lone Ranger does not come galloping over the horizon; it is exactly how life is. In our maturity as a civilisation, we should accept that we can cut out the cancer of ignorant sentimentality without diminishing, as in this case, our utter disgust at a foul and barbaric act of murder.
  7. that's written by Pete Evo
  8. cheers Mike (yet again).
  9. http://www.realitytv.co.uk An Apology: RealityTV apologises unreservedly for the broadcast of 'Sports Disasters 2' that aired June 4th at midnight. We are aware of the upset and concern this programme has generated and we are sincerely sorry for any distress or offence caused.
  10. from comments on a mirrored thread on RAWK it looks like they've pulled them from the schedules - they first disappeared from the online schedules within the last hour. http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php/topic,32686.30 ... latest is there's an apology on the website ... not seen it yet. ------------ From various posters: "It looks like they have pulled it form the listings. I looked on their website earlier and under listings for the 6th June and it DEFINATELY had it listed for midnight, I even pointed it out to a collaegue at work - I guess the complaints have made an impact." "Yup it was definately on there earlier, but it's been pulled. They haven't even put in a replacement, just left a blank space. " "Just had an E-mailed response. It was an unreserved apology. Guess they've pulled the plug on it " "There is now an apology (of sorts) on the main page of their website."
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