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Good business if we get him on a free.

Don't think that some folk are getting the whole 'choice' thing Herb

How much would he be worth if he was not a Bosman? Have we got a real old fashioned bargain here?

Just a little memory to toss into the pot... First time I saw England was a Barnsey international at Wembley. To say that I was shocked is an understatement. Went with an English workmate, who had actually served in Northern Ireland btw, who kept myself and my mate on the staright and narrow by telling us when to keep our gobs shut (Irish accents you see) when we walked by certain boozers and certain groups of fans. I could not believe the hatred, xenophobia, racism, bile that I saw that day. Here was me used to going to see plucky Ireland, a few pints and watch them blindly hoof the ball around Landsdowne Road without really caring if we won or not - before we booed ex-Rangers players Now I am sitting beside a sizable bunch of neanderthals doing nazi salutes and monkey chants (at their own and best player!). Just couldn't fathom it... and the stewards did nothing to boot. Maybe us Irish cling onto some idealistic and naive notion of being the underdog and being in it for a bit of craic. Whereas in England the national side is quite a different animal which turns a lot off especially the committed club fans.

Would like to see Kewell play a few as a central attacker next season...

What is Aurelio like? Will he start?

Was waiting for someone to bring up Northern Ireland Dubs dancing with boggers, scumbags hugging Gardai, trade unionists with arms around fat-cats, moany doley working class intellectualls kissing silver spoon mid-Atlantic twanged rich kids, GAA facists arm-in-arm with rugger buggers... There would be unbridled national joy. Love would spread across the land. An out-pouring on a huge scale. Albeit fleeting. I have never seen Dublin so happy when we drew a few games previously. And some of the worst games in WC history to boot. Tainted as a Liverpool fan now

Not upset at all. Taint away. I am more than comfortable with my level of support. I just don't think you ever can understand from the non-English point-of-view. In the same way I can probably never truly understand not being from/living in Liverpool. Seriously. that may indeed be part of it... feck we should start a good ould oot'er argument 'debate' I do think that a high proportion of Irish reds (vast majority?) would say the same as me (all my mates do). Ireland winning the wc (!) would unite the country in which I live like no other event ever could. And I include economic and political events in this. Like the coffee/beer analogy above this one is a little like the 'if you had to kill one, would you kill your mother or father?' question.

Yawn.

WTF? Just read it on on Ceefax... Gout?!

This is a classic forum question that, clasically, folk overreact when someone would rather see their country win the world cup. It makes one a kind of 'tainted' Liverpool fan. Sure most of you lot don't even seem to support England and only see the side in terms of the club shirts they wear. I don't see it that way & that makes it different.

It is highly highly highly improbable and Ireland are not a club side with direct access to numerous competitions every year. Ireland have never won anything and eh probably never will... sure we couldn't begrudge them one little trophy could we? Eh?

Oh yes it is.

Ireland to win the world cup. By a mile. It is different though.

Some lovely dives from Kuyt tonight though eh? Zzzzzzz.

Dunno. Statue of Ram Man ?

Nope. They played different games today imho. They are different types of players. Robben and Van Persie tried to beat players to get the ball into Kuyt or he was used him in link up play... Rooney's game was different today. It was better for one! Kuyt did not play well tonight regadless of how deep Portugal defended. My bottom line is that I have never seen Kuyt play to a standard that has me excited & would be worried if we splashed a lot of cash on him.

Tevez and Bellamy up front would have to win some kind of award.

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Rooney had an good enough game today. He was probably England's best player. Same game as Rooney? Didn't see too many balls knocked over the top to Kuyt for him to run onto. Didn't see him take on many players...

Very good point.

Obviously. But he was rubbish.

Rubbish tonight. Rubbish for the whole tournament. On his showing in the WC I do not want to see us sign him. Looks like a donkey that scored a few in a generally poor league.

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