Capturing The Friedmans

[ManxRed]

Don't know how many of you hang around here in the evenings, forgot to post this earlier today.

 

If you haven't seen this film then please do, its compelling beyond belief.

 

If enough people watch this tonight I guarantee a 5 page thread about it tomorrow!

 

[Spike]

thanks for the heads up. Forgot this was on

[Benitez]

got that on DVD, which has lots more coverage of the case on it, as well as film from the premier of it, which is worth seeing in itself!

 

yes, very compelling film it is!

[Guest Scot]

It's a really excellent piece and extremely serendipitous.

[slapnuts]

wanted to see this but missed it playing 5 a side, or 4 onto 5 as some c*** didnt turn up.

[ManxRed]

It was canny. You'd have given it at least 6/10!

[slapnuts]

It was canny. You'd have given it at least 6/10!

 

it will be repeated and then I can

[Coyler]

Couldn't stop watching this last night (although the fifty ad breaks an hour did their best ); very bizarre household.

 

Mad the way the case was built using leading questions and no physical evidence in those days.

 

The son that helped him do it was a disturbing piece of work.

 

Mind you, the son that didn't help him do it was a loo-lah as well.

[JohnA]

I had to change over when the missus came home from work....something about a parenting programme....can anyone fill me in as to what happened to the dad and son, I saw up to the point where the dad decided to plead guilty....did they both get banged up?

[charlie clown]

gripping film but never really gets to any clear conclusions does it. A while since I saw it mind.

[ManxRed]

I had to change over when the missus came home from work....something about a parenting programme....can anyone fill me in as to what happened to the dad and son, I saw up to the point where the dad decided to plead guilty....did they both get banged up?

 

The father was sent to chokey, the son decided to plead guilty but confessed (or made up, make your own minds up) that he too was abused by his dad and he was also a victim. There was footage of the son pleading guilty in court in absolute tears, and then it cuts to the home video his brother was shooting of him outside the courthouse beforehand doing Monty Python sketches. Bizarre. He was given 18 years.

 

The father topped himself in prison, and the son inherited 250,000 bucks on a life insurance policy that was OK with suicide.

 

The son was released after serving 13 years.

 

Did you see the bit where Arnold confessed in a letter to abusing his kid brother (the one that was interviewed during the documentary)? More twists than a model plane's propellor band.

 

Possibly the most dysfunctional family I've ever come across (and don't forget, I'm from the Isle of Man!).

[Coyler]

I had to change over when the missus came home from work....something about a parenting programme....can anyone fill me in as to what happened to the dad and son, I saw up to the point where the dad decided to plead guilty....did they both get banged up?

Yep, the son ended up pleading guilty as well. The prosecutors were telling them all that the judge would sentence him to three consecutive sentences if he pleaded not guilty, so he goes to his lawyer and says he'll plead guilty. And "oh, by the way, my dad used to molest me". The lawyer was so convinced of his innocence still that he said he couldn't ethically let him admit to all these charges of sodomy in court if he hadn't done them. Your man, the son, then said, "ah but you see I can admit to them".

 

Of course he was claiming then in the modern-day interviews that it was his lawyer's fiendish plan to screw him, that the lawyer had fantasized that his dad had abused him, etc., etc., but they should actual footage of him in the courtroom breaking down and saying he was so sorry and he wished he could have prevented all the abuse and all.

 

The dad, meanwhile, has a life insurance policy for a quarter of a million schquabs in the molesty son's name, so after two years (when the suicide exemption clause ran out) he tops himself by louring back a whole bottle of anti-depressant pills. Happy days.

 

The son got released then at the end, goes and visits his mam first thing, which was a bit strange, and they hug and what have you and they're all smiles.

 

Did you see the bit where they had the dad's brother on talking away and then it cuts away off to the wife who said kind of casually that, oh yeah, he told me once he rode his brother when he was 13 or something?

 

 

Mental film. Wonder what really happened.

[Captain Chaos]

Yep, the son ended up pleading guilty as well. The prosecutors were telling them all that the judge would sentence him to three consecutive sentences if he pleaded not guilty, so he goes to his lawyer and says he'll plead guilty. And "oh, by the way, my dad used to molest me". The lawyer was so convinced of his innocence still that he said he couldn't ethically let him admit to all these charges of sodomy in court if he hadn't done them. Your man, the son, then said, "ah but you see I can admit to them".

 

Of course he was claiming then in the modern-day interviews that it was his lawyer's fiendish plan to screw him, that the lawyer had fantasized that his dad had abused him, etc., etc., but they should actual footage of him in the courtroom breaking down and saying he was so sorry and he wished he could have prevented all the abuse and all.

 

The dad, meanwhile, has a life insurance policy for a quarter of a million schquabs in the molesty son's name, so after two years (when the suicide exemption clause ran out) he tops himself by louring back a whole bottle of anti-depressant pills. Happy days.

 

The son got released then at the end, goes and visits his mam first thing, which was a bit strange, and they hug and what have you and they're all smiles.

 

Did you see the bit where they had the dad's brother on talking away and then it cuts away off to the wife who said kind of casually that, oh yeah, he told me once he rode his brother when he was 13 or something?

Mental film. Wonder what really happened.

 

 

 

another odd thing was that one of the pupils who attended the same computer classes didn't see anything happening!!!!

 

 

I think though the weirdest thing about the whole thing was that one of the sons had filmed the thing from start to finish!