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Andy, I would say that our glorious past is a millstone around the club's neck. Granted we won old big ears for the fifth time - but if we use our glorious past as an incentive then why haven't we won a title for donkey's years? The longer it goes without winning it, the more pressure gets heaped upon the club, resulting in knee-jerk reactions - such as, perhaps Moores selling the club to some johnny foreigner just interested in making a quick buck. My old man used to drum it into my head when I was a kid, he always used to say "you see that club, son, your watching the best f***ing club in the world - them players are f***ing proud to put that red shirt on their backs and don't you forget it". Do you feel that about our great club anymore, mate?

"Show me a bad loser and I'll show you a loser" - by the way, I've never created this quote. But it fits here.

I accept this, hence why I take my that comment back. Doesn't change my view that certain people on here have their heads somewhere, and it's not reality. The sooner people accept there is a problem at LFC the sooner they can respond to people such as myself in a more constructive way. We all love Liverpool, and we want whats best for the club - but I been thinking this for years now. Based on the evidence that we haven't won a title for donky's years, then why should I believe the club can win one soon? My view is taht the club has got major psychological problems.

Andy, you are too subjective. Denial is not just a river in Egypt you know. Censorship now? What happened to freedom of speech. I take back "head in a**e, comment", a bit uncalled for, I know.

Did we win the title last year? Or the year before that? Get your head out of your a***.

At last, the voice of reason. LFC has psychological baggage. A lot like many on here, who cannot take criticism. We are f****ed for, yet again, another season. Will we have to wait another 20 years to win the title based on current evidence. Don't believe the hype people. I'm pissed off with Liverpool, the club I love, not doing the business again. Redkop is correct - "we cannot compete with the Mancs and Chelsea, I would add Arsenal to that mix as well. People get a grip and wake up out of your subjective views.

We are s****.

That's coz most on here are in denial.

Something about his missus.

Here is someone who's not in denial. Unlike most of the idiots on here. Wake up, we are crap. Gerrard needs to go. There's stuff outside of football that's bothering him, it will come out soon - plus, he got what he wanted and played in the middle, and still nothing. Today's match had naff all fight and urgency. Where was the personal pride in those pathetic excuses for footy players. RAFA what are you gonna do about it?????????? People on here are too happy to live in the past!

Well said.

And why don't you get a reality grip?

We all have our views on Gerrard. But most of the fans on here are in denial. "Lucky to get 4th" What are you lot on?

Bet I won't. Gerrard needs to go. Got what he wanted by playing in the middle and he was still crap. He needs to go, he's a miserable a***. He is not bigger than the club. Take ya googles mate.

Here, here. Someone who's not in denial.

No s**t sherlock

Listen to yourselves. What is it with some fans? You lot are in denial. We are sh**e. Look at the table, therein lies the evidence.

What. Are you saying we are the opposite to what I said? Get a reality grip or get some glasses. your deluded.

I'd say, the f***ing whole team are a waste.

We are CRAP. Absolute disgrace. Title, my a***. Where is the sense of urgency? No fight, no bottle, no leadership. Gerrard needs to be sold, NOW. Rafa, what are you going to do about it???????????

We still haven't won it though!

No. Rafa can't cut it in the Prem'. We are a decent cup side and that's it. What about the Prem'? Why can't we show we are the best team over the 38 games in the Prem'? We as a club, have got psychological baggage.

It's the same old story with us, though.