But it hasnt been a "steady decline" All of the managers you have mentioned (Souness excepted) have got to a point where we looked like we could challenge.....Evans in 97, Ged in 2002, and now Rafa is at that ppint, or was in the summer Its what happens after that, that is the issue I dont think Evans and Ged were given a season too much, I think they were got rid off at the right point (the way they did it to Evans was s*** like"