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Watford vs Liverpool, Premier League, Sat 29 Feb, 17.30

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1 minute ago, Swipe said:

That was brutal from Deeney. 

Really was. And yet done with affable charm. Like a baby-faced assassin. 

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It's hardly news to us that Lovren is like that. The question is why was he playing in the first place.

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14 minutes ago, Kid Klopp said:

Didn't see the game, saw the lineup before kick off and wanted to go on here to blame Lovren prior to whatever might happen. 

Am I correct in assuming it is basically all Lovren's fault? 

No not all his fault as we should have been good enough to get a result despite him but he is a liability given the way this team is set up to play and allows Watford's tactics today to effectively neutralise our firepower. His positioning is too erratic and it led to too much space between him and VVD on too many occasions whilst he does not work in tandem with his CB partner. His reading of the game is so poor that he commits to tackles that he should not attempt to make and gets too tight to players which allows him to be rolled or by-passed by other players running on to the laid off ball. He misjudges the flight of the ball and overall unsettles the whole back line. Whilst VVD often covers for his mistakes, if VVD has an off day as well, then results like today happen. The real problem with Lovren is his distribution of the ball. It is too slow and hesitant and allows the other side to focus their press on him forcing either a misplaced pass or allowing the opportunity for a quick counter-attack to be lost. Watford packed men behind the ball and doubled up on the flanks to negate our full backs. Up until now we have countered this tactic by drawing the opposition forward before releasing the ball quickly down the flanks for Trent or Salah to run on to but this did not really happen today because Lovren dwelt on the ball. 

The front three were too isolated and Gini and Ox were too passive so it was poor all round but I don't think Lovren suits us anymore and I hope today proves the point for Klopp.

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20 minutes ago, Stanley Leisure said:

Hard to feel wound up by that. 

We were never going to go unbeaten, it’s absolutely natural to have dips in performance and today was just one of those days.

Feel weirdly relieved going unbeaten isn’t a thing anymore. Also it means we likely win the league v Villa at home now, which is good.  

Yeah I'd agree with this. I'm not particularly pissed off tonight.

I really want us to win the league at Anfield and I really don't want to get knocked out of the FA Cup by Chelsea, so something was going to have to give. I'd rather it have been a draw but hey ho.

As long as the players get their act together it'll work out.

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7 hours ago, sammy & a said:

Hmmm. Not sure in this one. They are awkward and we haven’t been stellar recently.

YES! Happy to sacrifice the happiness of every single one of you on the altar of my ego.

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2 minutes ago, RaoulD said:

No not all his fault as we should have been good enough to get a result despite him but he is a liability given the way this team is set up to play and allows Watford's tactics today to effectively neutralise our firepower. His positioning is too erratic and it led to too much space between him and VVD on too many occasions whilst he does not work in tandem with his CB partner. His reading of the game is so poor that he commits to tackles that he should not attempt to make and gets too tight to players which allows him to be rolled or by-passed by other players running on to the laid off ball. He misjudges the flight of the ball and overall unsettles the whole back line. Whilst VVD often covers for his mistakes, if VVD has an off day as well, then results like today happen. The real problem with Lovren is his distribution of the ball. It is too slow and hesitant and allows the other side to focus their press on him forcing either a misplaced pass or allowing the opportunity for a quick counter-attack to be lost. Watford packed men behind the ball and doubled up on the flanks to negate our full backs. Up until now we have countered this tactic by drawing the opposition forward before releasing the ball quickly down the flanks for Trent or Salah to run on to but this did not really happen today because Lovren dwelt on the ball. 

The front three were too isolated and Gini and Ox were too passive so it was poor all round but I don't think Lovren suits us anymore and I hope today proves the point for Klopp.

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1 minute ago, sammy & a said:

YES! Happy to sacrifice the happiness of every single one of you on the altar of my ego.

Told you too. I caveated it but I still bloody told you. 

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2 minutes ago, RaoulD said:

No not all his fault as we should have been good enough to get a result despite him but he is a liability given the way this team is set up to play and allows Watford's tactics today to effectively neutralise our firepower. His positioning is too erratic and it led to too much space between him and VVD on too many occasions whilst he does not work in tandem with his CB partner. His reading of the game is so poor that he commits to tackles that he should not attempt to make and gets too tight to players which allows him to be rolled or by-passed by other players running on to the laid off ball. He misjudges the flight of the ball and overall unsettles the whole back line.

This is spot on.

I made a comment at HT that we looked way too tentative with him in the back line - the passing out wasn't as crisp and moves were just breaking down as Watford were able to get back into position as he slowed down the distribution. This also caused TAA to have to play closer to him

The whole team were woeful - but starting him over Matip was a very strange choice today

 

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3 hours ago, psl said:

Sarr being back is a boost for them. Their good form under Pearson came with him in the side and they dipped when he was injured.

If you're playing that game Sammya.

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3 minutes ago, sammy & a said:

YES! Happy to sacrifice the happiness of every single one of you on the altar of my ego.

:lol:

The champagne must be flowing at your gaff

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Firstly well done to the fans in the ground. Sat through 95 minutes of crap and didn’t stop the support. Amazing. 
 

Watford were good too. Don’t get the hate for them or relegation wish. They got what they deserved. Hope that Delefou is ok. 
 

we were crap all over and have been for weeks. Never cared about unbeaten record but to lose like that - poor form from our team. 
 

hopefully kick up the a*** needed. We had no intent from midfield. Maybe we do need a sancho and go 4231 next season so we have one extra. 

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6 minutes ago, RaoulD said:

No not all his fault as we should have been good enough to get a result despite him but he is a liability given the way this team is set up to play and allows Watford's tactics today to effectively neutralise our firepower. His positioning is too erratic and it led to too much space between him and VVD on too many occasions whilst he does not work in tandem with his CB partner. His reading of the game is so poor that he commits to tackles that he should not attempt to make and gets too tight to players which allows him to be rolled or by-passed by other players running on to the laid off ball. He misjudges the flight of the ball and overall unsettles the whole back line. Whilst VVD often covers for his mistakes, if VVD has an off day as well, then results like today happen. The real problem with Lovren is his distribution of the ball. It is too slow and hesitant and allows the other side to focus their press on him forcing either a misplaced pass or allowing the opportunity for a quick counter-attack to be lost. Watford packed men behind the ball and doubled up on the flanks to negate our full backs. Up until now we have countered this tactic by drawing the opposition forward before releasing the ball quickly down the flanks for Trent or Salah to run on to but this did not really happen today because Lovren dwelt on the ball. 

The front three were too isolated and Gini and Ox were too passive so it was poor all round but I don't think Lovren suits us anymore and I hope today proves the point for Klopp.

Yeah good post that. It sums it up well in a way I'm too cross to attempt..but just picking the clown  had such a big knock on impact

Just get rid

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Just now, psl said:

If you're playing that game Sammya.

Aye, that call from you was lodged in my memory while he was putting us to the sword 

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16 minutes ago, Cam said:

"you try to pick on the weakest link" 

"I knew he would want to fight me and that's my game" 

"he's holding me there, not even looking at the ball" 

"he'll be cry-w*nking in to his red blankie tonight" 

Haha

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10 minutes ago, LicK said:

It's hardly news to us that Lovren is like that. The question is why was he playing in the first place.

Because Gomez was injured?

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I think many of them who played today have played their last game for us - we're gonna need a massive rebuild now before the Chelsea game. What should take years will have to be done by Tuesday morning

Edited by pipnasty

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Utter s*** that. Mo and Mane as poor as I can remember. Nothing further needs saying about Lovren. We are desperately missing Jordan as Fab and Ox are just not at the races.

Ah well would have been nice to go unbeaten but it won't say that on the trophy.

Edited by D.Boon

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Just now, pipnasty said:

I think many of them who played today have played their last game for us - we're gonna need a massive rebuild now before the Chelsea game. What should take years will have to be done by Tuesday morning

Haha

 

Think the manager is playing to keep his job on Tuesday 

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1 minute ago, D.Boon said:

Utter s*** that. Mo and Mane as poor as I can remember. Nothing further needs saying about Lovren. We are desperately missing Jordan as Fab and Ox are just nitvatb

What the f***ing hell is that meant to be?

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6 minutes ago, Swipe said:

Told you too. I caveated it but I still bloody told you. 

Ok you can come to the legend’s secret forum too. I’ll get Carheex to DM you the password.

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