Transfer Window Speculation

[Hightown Phil]

5 minutes ago, growler said:

I can see grujic and Wilson as big exits. I still think someone will take a punt on Shaq and potentially origi. There’s also a bunch of fringe players in early 20’s who we want to move on (like Nat Phillips).

i just think it will all happen late in the window this year. And if Sarr is still available then, we nab him.

How are we valuing big exits here? I don’t see why either of those players would go for more than Origi. 

[growler]

4 minutes ago, Hightown Phil said:

How are we valuing big exits here? I don’t see why either of those players would go for more than Origi. 

Demand seems to be higher for Wilson and both their wages are probably a lot lower than origi would expect.

big is an exit generating more than 10mil in my opinion. 

Edited September 9, 2020 by growler

[Hightown Phil]

14 minutes ago, growler said:

Demand seems to be higher for Wilson and both their wages are probably a lot lower than origi would expect.

big is an exit generating more than 10mil in my opinion. 

I think one of the real issues with shifting these players is that barely anyone is buying anything other than people who’ll improve their eleven and how likely are we having it that any of these players we want to shift are a huge improvement on what teams have? Fulham’s centre forward is better than Origi and they came 4th in the Championship. 

Wolves are doing some mad Mendes stuff, and Sheffield United have stretched out their squad, but everyone seems to be cutting the ‘improve your squad’ corner and focusing on their elevens. 

Not many players there who you wouldn’t expect to be first choice players.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/transfers/wettbewerb/GB1

[growler]

13 minutes ago, Hightown Phil said:

I think one of the real issues with shifting these players is that barely anyone is buying anything other than people who’ll improve their eleven and how likely are we having it that any of these players we want to shift are a huge improvement on what teams have? Fulham’s centre forward is better than Origi and they came 4th in the Championship. 

Wolves are doing some mad Mendes stuff, and Sheffield United have stretched out their squad, but everyone seems to be cutting the ‘improve your squad’ corner and focusing on their elevens. 

Not many players there who you wouldn’t expect to be first choice players.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/transfers/wettbewerb/GB1

That’s a fair point - I just think lots of the mid table, lower table teams will feel the reality of 3 games a week come start of season and realise they need more legs and we’ll get someone that will be pay 17-18 for Wilson for example or 25 for a proven striker (origi). 

[Tommok]

12 hours ago, Swipe said:

Imagine if he leaves last day of the window and Thiago doesn't arrive. CHAOS!

 

We can't even take to the streets to protest, unless we do it in carefully spaced groups of 5 people

[kop205]

8 hours ago, Hightown Phil said:

I almost feel like it’s a bit for show and that there’s a PR angle of ‘look we told you it was going to be hard and we’ve got this fella in and it wasn’t easy and it was difficult to make the numbers work but f***ing hell he’s brilliant will you all shut up now?’

If so then it is a other PR miscalculation by them given most people it is just making them look like mingebags. 

[Tommy Cockles]

 

I've very much got that "we aren't signing anyone" vibe now. He's been threatening to come round for a while, but now he's here & I've just made him a brew. Hello again, old friend.

Still, Champions and that. Sigh.

[Conrad]

9 hours ago, growler said:

Demand seems to be higher for Wilson and both their wages are probably a lot lower than origi would expect.

big is an exit generating more than 10mil in my opinion. 

We are not going to sell Grujic for more than £10m. It will be another loan.

Wilson will go I think on the last day of the window to someone like bournemouth or west brom

Origi will stay because we won't get our asking price.

If Brewster goes for £20m we may get Sarr, but unlikely

[Cunny]

there might be some panic buying around the transfer deadline that will enable us to sell some players.

However, if the Covid situation continues to get worse and it looks less likely there will be fans in stadiums this season then very few clubs will be looking to buy.

[Conrad]

1 hour ago, kop205 said:

If so then it is a other PR miscalculation by them given most people it is just making them look like mingebags. 

I'd have thought getting him in as early as possible for Jurgen to integrate him into the team was the number 1 priority

[Hightown Phil]

4 minutes ago, Conrad said:

We are not going to sell Grujic for more than £10m. It will be another loan.

Wilson will go I think on the last day of the window to someone like bournemouth or west brom

Origi will stay because we won't get our asking price.

If Brewster goes for £20m we may get Sarr, but unlikely

There is a 0% chance Bournemouth are buying Wilson surely?

Edited September 10, 2020 by Hightown Phil

[Conrad]

Just now, Hightown Phil said:

There is a 0% chance Bournemouth are buying Wilson surely?

I forgot they'd been relegated. scrub bournemouth from the list.

[D.Boon]

Would Tesco's be interested in Grujic. Can he drive a van?

[Case]

6 minutes ago, D.Boon said:

Would Tesco's be interested in Grujic. Can he drive a van?

He's been in Germany for a few years. How desperate are you for yer Kohl-Rabi?

[honourablegeorge]

9 hours ago, growler said:

That’s a fair point - I just think lots of the mid table, lower table teams will feel the reality of 3 games a week come start of season and realise they need more legs and we’ll get someone that will be pay 17-18 for Wilson for example or 25 for a proven striker (origi). 

I'm kind of hoping that one of the top teams will feel the reality of 3 games a week and figure out that Mane, Salah and Firmino will need some backup

[Cobs]

Shut the f*** up, says Klopp

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54098364

[Sion]

It's an obvious dig at Chelsea and City, but plenty of other clubs are starting to spend a bit of money now. I don't think 20-25mm odd on Thiago is beyond the realms of anyone but an oligarch. 

[Swipe]

yeah I think not going on a blitz is fine but losing out on someone as good as Thiago for a few million would be a bit depressing with the last few seasons we've had.

[Barnesy_10]

Especially if he goes elsewhere and strengthens a rival just like Werner did

Just feels like we are letting everyone play catch up when we could really build on what we have 

[kop205]

2 hours ago, Cobs said:

Shut the f*** up, says Klopp

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54098364

Ha ha, he hates Lampard I reckon

[Lark]

59 minutes ago, Barnesy_10 said:

Just feels like we are letting everyone play catch up when we could really build on what we have 

Feel we are playing a very dangerous and somewhat naive game.  

top 4 is the financial cash cow and we have 2 competitors (city and chelsea) who don't rely on traditional sources of revenue.  Newcastle might become the 3rd club that don't have to worry about debt - the saudi's will just set up a shell company who don't trade anything but can fund newcastle to the tune of hundreds of millions of pounds. 

Leaving man united who spend 100m net every summer, ourselves, and all other clubs who are outspending us for a final top 4 place.

I think fsg's hope is that teams like everton with an existing 110m debt, plus stadium build debt, plus covid will hamstring their finances for years to come while we play safe and come out smelling of roses.

All i can see is that the premier league/banks wont allow 15/16 clubs to go belly up and arrange for debt to be frozen/refinanced until covid/fans are allowed back whether thats a year or 5 years. 

We might have a late flurry in the transfer market but the bigger concern is 3/4 top teams look set and i'm not sure sell to buy will help keep us dining at the top table for much longer. 

 

 

[Hassony]

D.Boon and Conrad will be happy to hear that Newcastle and Westham have apparently bid £10m for Grugic according to twitter ITKs, but we want more

Also Brighton are interested in buying Brewster 

[smithdown]

20 minutes ago, Hassony said:

D.Boon and Conrad will be happy to hear that Newcastle and Westham have apparently bid £10m for Grugic according to twitter ITKs, but we want more

 

He must be worse than I thought

[Lark]

west ham also bidding 30m for that burnley defender and also want brewster.  Odd they can drum up 40m with a click of their fingers.   

[Benzo-13]

27 minutes ago, Lark said:

west ham also bidding 30m for that burnley defender and also want brewster.  Odd they can drum up 40m with a click of their fingers.   

Probably a click of their dildos..