tactics

[surf]

very interesting piece about the difference between german and english football:

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/champions-league-german-game-is-leagues-ahead-says-uwe-rosler-8892942.html

 

English football now is very much ‘pass, pass, pass, pass, pass,’ but you’ll go nowhere,” Rösler says. “In German football, a lot of teams win the ball and they have eight to 10 seconds – it is the 10-second rule – you have 10 seconds to finish the attack. Every ball has to go forward, forward, forward. So that means to have runners going forward all the time, so it is a very attacking style in German football. That’s the difference.

 

there's sense in this. after winning the ball the opposition have players forward and poor defensive shape. a quick attack can take advantage before the defense can regroup. this is easier than playing through a well prepared organised defense.

 

i quite like the premise. it requires fast, intelligent players and a decent pass to reach them

 

 

[johngibo YPC]

very interesting piece about the difference between german and english football:

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/champions-league-german-game-is-leagues-ahead-says-uwe-rosler-8892942.html

 

English football now is very much ‘pass, pass, pass, pass, pass,’ but you’ll go nowhere,” Rösler says. “In German football, a lot of teams win the ball and they have eight to 10 seconds – it is the 10-second rule – you have 10 seconds to finish the attack. Every ball has to go forward, forward, forward. So that means to have runners going forward all the time, so it is a very attacking style in German football. That’s the difference.

 

there's sense in this. after winning the ball the opposition have players forward and poor defensive shape. a quick attack can take advantage before the defense can regroup. this is easier than playing through a well prepared organised defense.

 

i quite like the premise. it requires fast, intelligent players and a decent pass to reach them

 

Absolute nonsense. Who in England is playing like that?

[Kid Klopp]

Absolute nonsense. Who in England is playing like that?

 

It's actually worth noticing that who you might expect to be the leaders in the possession philosophy: Us, Arsenal, Swansea and spurs, have noticeable changed their tactics in this regard. Possession is becoming yesterday's news in modern football.

[Rory Fitzgerald]

Sounds like junior league football where the ball is booted forward and everyone chases after it

[surf]

Sounds like junior league football where the ball is booted forward and everyone chases after it

 

sounds like the way bayern & dortmund beat barca & real

[johngibo YPC]

barca & real

 

those famous English sides

[John am Rhein]

There's sense in this when the scores are level or when needing to equalize; not necessarily when already in the lead

[surf]

There's sense in this when the scores are level or when needing to equalize; not necessarily when already in the lead

 

a thread about fast german attacks and you managed a reply that didnt contain BLITZ!

ich bin enttäuscht

[blago]

The best philosophy is variation. Having players who are smart enough to see when there is a good opportunity for a swift counter and also knowing when to simply keep the ball until more bodies get forward in support.

 

Either way the players need to take up good positions as quickly as possible when possession is regained so that there are options going forward. This will come more naturally to some players than others who will need to be coached.

[Gunga Din]

Sounds like junior league football where the ball is booted forward and everyone chases after it

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M1tlLPmqL0

 

put that in a f***ing graph, Rory

[Nerik]

Finishing an attack in 10secs on a counter, during change of play/transition, makes a lot of sense. However it is very different to building an attack from the back. Possession can be used to get opponents out of position whilst they press you etc. As others mentioned it is a mix of options in the end.

[John am Rhein]

a thread about fast german attacks and you managed a reply that didnt contain BLITZ!

ich bin enttäuscht

 

Achtung Panzer!!!!

[Rory Fitzgerald]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M1tlLPmqL0

 

put that in a f***ing graph, Rory

That's American f***ing football. The snap back, offence runs forward. Player stops the ball and the quarter back launches it the Hail Mary.

 

Great viewing all the same

[RBM]

Sounds like the Germans are copying the English style of play. I can't think of anybody in England who play in the way he states.

[yellow jumper]

sort of relies on everybody doing it. more sides probably parking bus here, more competitive and energy sapping league also and apart from that think the trend amongst the top sides is towards a directer style anyway now.