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Haaretz: "Israel introduces 'Palestinian only' bus lines, following complaints from Jewish settlers. Afikim bus company to have special buses for Palestinian workers commuting from the West Bank to jobs in central Israel; announcement follows complaints from settlers that Palestinians are a security risk."

 

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Haaretz: "Israel introduces 'Palestinian only' bus lines, following complaints from Jewish settlers. Afikim bus company to have special buses for Palestinian workers commuting from the West Bank to jobs in central Israel; announcement follows complaints from settlers that Palestinians are a security risk."

 

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apartheid would be if Israeli Arabs had their own bus lines

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More repulsive behaviour from the Israeli's. Trying to have their cake and eat it too. Their policies will ultimately doom the state of Israel.

 

ok then, best to ban Palestinian travel in to Israel......achieve added security while starving the f*****s, and crucially avoiding any accusations of wanting to have their cake and eat it

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surely Apartheid would be if Israeli Arabs were banned from Israeli buses (which they are not)

 

There'll not be a Palestine by the look of how they're now stamping passports.

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that gives you entry to Israeli controlled parts of "the west bank" which Israel calls Judea and Samaria , Israel cannot issue permits for entrance to Palestinian controlled areas (at leaast as far as i know)

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It's a slippery slope on the West Bank.

 

The Israeli government is creating this intricate border like no other in the world. The people who they are inextricably linked with have been fragmented and they have no chance for a true state. It is setting up a situation of endless conflict.

 

The demographics will kill Israel in the end. The areas that they have annexed coupled with the state of Israel will ultimately have an Arab majority and one which they will be prejudiced against not unlike what happened in South Africa and what ultimately led to the white dominated state's demise.

 

Israel needs to get real. Sure, build a barrier; the Palestinians hate you. Isolate yourself physically to protect yourself. But don't just glom a bunch of other stuff and run roughshod over the people who have lived there for longer than you have. Pull the borders back, make it sensible and not this byzantine weird border. Have a Jewish state, but stop catering to all of these religious zealots from Brooklyn.

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It's a slippery slope on the West Bank.

 

The Israeli government is creating this intricate border like no other in the world. The people who they are inextricably linked with have been fragmented and they have no chance for a true state. It is setting up a situation of endless conflict.

 

The demographics will kill Israel in the end. The areas that they have annexed coupled with the state of Israel will ultimately have an Arab majority and one which they will be prejudiced against not unlike what happened in South Africa and what ultimately led to the white dominated state's demise.

 

Israel needs to get real. Sure, build a barrier; the Palestinians hate you. Isolate yourself physically to protect yourself. But don't just glom a bunch of other stuff and run roughshod over the people who have lived there for longer than you have. Pull the borders back, make it sensible and not this byzantine weird border. Have a Jewish state, but stop catering to all of these religious zealots from Brooklyn.

 

probably too late

 

oh the irony: undone by a relaxed policy of (Jewish crackpot) immigration

 

the opportunity came and went when Rabin was assassinated....and when Arafat wasn't

 

 

doesn't matter though as environmental catastrophe will soon see people leaving the region in their droves

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surely Apartheid would be if Israeli Arabs were banned from Israeli buses (which they are not)

 

 

Is this not ethnic segregation on public transport then?

 

 

that gives you entry to Israeli controlled parts of "the west bank" which Israel calls Judea and Samaria , Israel cannot issue permits for entrance to Palestinian controlled areas (at leaast as far as i know)

 

 

Nope, this is for all of the West Bank. It started in November.

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Is this not ethnic segregation on public transport then?

 

 

 

 

 

Nope, this is for all of the West Bank. It started in November.

 

so Israel implements a safer quicker and cheaper bus service for Palestinian workers and thats wrong. im pretty sure most of them would prefer not to travel on the same buses as the settlers anyway which according to the transportation ministry they still can

 

Have you used that visa to enter the Palestinian territories ? Maybe its changed but when I was there you needed a different permit to cross into the Palestinian controlled areas

 

It's the same place.

 

so whats all the wars about then?

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so Israel implements a safer quicker and cheaper bus service for Palestinian workers and thats wrong. im pretty sure most of them would prefer not to travel on the same buses as the settlers anyway which according to the transportation ministry they still can

 

 

 

like this?

 

"Police officer Advanced Staff Sergeant Major Shai Zecharia stops the bus at the bus stop. Soldiers order all the Palestinians off the bus. The first thing they do is collect all their identity cards as they get off. One by one, the Palestinians are told to go away from the bus stop and walk to the Azzun Atma checkpoint, which is about 2.5 kilometers away from the Shaar Shomron interchange. All of them responded with restraint and sadness, at most asking why. Here and there they received answers such as, ‘You’re not allowed on Highway 5’ and ‘You’re not allowed on public transportation.’ Advanced Staff Sergeant Major Zecharia gave some vital information to one of the older Palestinians who had arrived there, telling him: You should ride in special vans, not on Israeli buses.”

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like this?

 

"Police officer Advanced Staff Sergeant Major Shai Zecharia stops the bus at the bus stop. Soldiers order all the Palestinians off the bus. The first thing they do is collect all their identity cards as they get off. One by one, the Palestinians are told to go away from the bus stop and walk to the Azzun Atma checkpoint, which is about 2.5 kilometers away from the Shaar Shomron interchange. All of them responded with restraint and sadness, at most asking why. Here and there they received answers such as, ‘You’re not allowed on Highway 5’ and ‘You’re not allowed on public transportation.’ Advanced Staff Sergeant Major Zecharia gave some vital information to one of the older Palestinians who had arrived there, telling him: You should ride in special vans, not on Israeli buses.”

 

or this

In response to the report, the Transportation Ministry said it "has not issued any instruction or prohibition that prevents Palestinian workers from riding the public bus lines in Israel or in Judea and Samaria. Furthermore, the Transportation Ministry is not authorized to prevent any passangers from riding those lines."

 

"The two new lines that will be run as of tomorrow (Monday) are intended to improve the services to Palestinian workers that enter Israel via the Eyal Crossing," the ministry's statement continued, adding that the new lines will replace the "pirate" driving services who have been transporting Palestinian workers "at exorbitant prices and in an irregular fashion."

 

According to the ministry, the new lines will depart from the Tzofim area near Qalqilyah and will transport workers to their places of work in the Sharon region and Tel Aviv, at "especially cheap prices." For example, the tariff for traveling to Kfar Sava or Raanana will be NIS 5.1, and to Tel Aviv will cost NIS 10.6. This is compared to some NIS 40 that passengers have been charged by the private transportation services for each direction, the ministry said.

 

"The new lines will lessen the burden that has formed on buses as a result of the increase in numbers of working permits provided to Palestinians, who are permitted to work in Israel and will contribute to the improvements of services, for the betterment of Israelis and Palestinians as one", the statement said.

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