LUAS (train) & bus collide in Dublin city centre today.

[dorgie]

3 people seriously injured. Wouldn't be surprised if there's fatalities

 

 

 

http://twitpic.com/hxljd/full

 

http://www.railusers.ie/forum/attachment.p...mp;d=1253114434

Edited September 16, 2009 by dorgie

[Kite]

Looks like the bus ploughed through the drivers cabin. I expect he'll be lucky to survive that, looks horrific

[sean]

M50 will be stuffed I'd imagine, as a result

[Nathan Explosion]

Looks like the bus ploughed through the drivers cabin

 

How do you figure that out?

[Kite]

How do you figure that out?

Cause the drivers cab is missing???

[Nathan Explosion]

Cause the drivers cab is missing???

 

Correct. But how do you account for the train being in the side of the bus that ploughed through it?

 

If any ploughing took place (obviously it did) then it looks like the train did the ploughing.

[Kite]

Correct. But how do you account for the train being in the side of the bus that ploughed through it?

 

If any ploughing took place (obviously it did) then it looks like the train did the ploughing.

The train has been derailed, it's been knocked off its tracks a good few yards to the left of where it should be, so something must have dragged it there?

[Nathan Explosion]

The train has been derailed, it's been knocked off its tracks a good few yards to the left of where it should be, so something must have dragged it there?

 

Again, all correct. But that doesn't mean the bus did the ploughing. For instance, take another look at the 4th pic from the original post:

 

http://www.railusers.ie/forum/attachment.p...mp;d=1253114434

 

If the bus had done the ploughing, then why is the train sticking out the side of the bus and why does the front of the bus have no damage apart from the little prang from the traffic light post?

[Sion]

I'm with mr explosion here. if the bus had done the ramming the front would be smashed to pieces. From my experience the windows are designed to shatter on impact. I know as a few years ago a bus i was on clipped a wing mirror of a stationary truck at about 5 mph and the whole side window shattered (inwards)

Edited September 16, 2009 by Sion

[Rory Fitzgerald]

Correct. But how do you account for the train being in the side of the bus that ploughed through it?

 

If any ploughing took place (obviously it did) then it looks like the train did the ploughing.

 

Its a Luas lad !

Edited September 16, 2009 by Rory Fitzgerald

[Nathan Explosion]

Its a Luas lad !

 

Still a train, boy.

 

Surprised something like this hasn't happened previously - always looked precarious that crossing at Abbey/O'Connell streets.

Edited September 16, 2009 by Nathan Explosion

[Kite]

Again, all correct. But that doesn't mean the bus did the ploughing. For instance, take another look at the 4th pic from the original post:

 

http://www.railusers.ie/forum/attachment.p...mp;d=1253114434

 

If the bus had done the ploughing, then why is the train sticking out the side of the bus and why does the front of the bus have no damage apart from the little prang from the traffic light post?

Yeah, hadn't seen that pic of the front of the bus, that makes it clearer. I was mainly guessing from the way the train had gone off its rails. Wonder will someone stick up cctv footage of the incident somewhere - there's a camera on the bridge looking down O'Connell Street which surely saw the whole thing.

 

Still a train, boy.

 

Surprised something like this hasn't happened previously - always looked precarious that crossing at Abbey/O'Connell streets.

Agree. It's a train. Running in the middle of roads. That Tallaght line in particular is bound to throw up disasters every now and then Edited September 16, 2009 by Mr Kite

[bobbyboulders]

...If the bus had done the ploughing, then why is the train sticking out the side of the bus and why does the front of the bus have no damage apart from the little prang from the traffic light post?

 

Correct. Spotters badge for you.

[Duncan Disorderly]

Its a Luas lad !

Snail On The Rail

[dorgie]

Dublin Bus claiming the investigation will show that the Bus had the green light. If true, then either the driver of the Luas Tram was in another world at the time or there was a failure between the two traffic signal systems that gave both the bus and the Luas the right to proceed.

 

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0917/luas.html

 

Bus in tram crash had green light - CIE claims

Thursday, 17 September 2009 12:56

The Chairman of CIE has claimed that investigations into the Luas and bus crash on O'Connell Street in Dublin will show that the Dublin Bus driver had a green light.

 

A Dublin Bus and Luas tram collided yesterday afternoon at the O'Connell Street, Abbey Street junction.

 

More than 20 people were taken to hospital after the accident, which took place just after 3pm.

 

AdvertisementChairman Dr John Lynch said the Railway Safety Commission will cover all aspects of what happened yesterday afternoon.

 

He said the investigation will take some time to be completed.

 

Dr Lynch said it will look at whether there was a problem with the Luas operation; given the fact the bus driver had a green light. He said the bus driver is badly shaken but alright.

 

Dr Lynch said that he has reviewed CCTV footage of the incident.

 

He said that a full investigation will need to take place before the full details of what happened emerge.

 

Dr Lynch said that whatever occurred was out of the ordinary given the wide nature of the street.

 

Dublin Bus has been in contact with the passengers affected.

 

A spokesperson for Veolia Transport, the company which operates the Luas, said it will not be making any comment following the statement by CIE's Chairman on the crash.

 

She added the company is going to wait for the investigation to take place before making a statement.

 

Luas service disruption

 

 

This morning, O'Connell Street reopened to all traffic.

 

Disruption to services on the Luas Red Line continues with services running only between Tallaght and Smithfield.

 

Both the Luas and the bus have been removed from the scene.

 

Three people are said to be in a stable condition in hospital.

 

Gardaí, Veolia Transport and Dublin Bus are investigating the cause of the collision.

 

Gardaí concluded their investigation of the crash scene at 4am.

[Maldini]

The Luas trams have a transponder that gives them priority at the lights as they approach them. I wouldn't be surprised if this was caused by a malfunction of that system. It's just a wonder that it's taken 4 years for this to happen.

[Coyler]

I remember when they first brought in the Luas one of the publicity fellows was saying that introducing a new overground transport system like that always had its teething problems and looking at international best practice we could expect no more than three deaths in the first year.

[Swan Red]

doesn't the power cut out to the tram if they don't have the lights

[Ostrich Man]

Snail On The Rail

I hate all that s****.

 

its w***.

[Jarg Armani]

f***'s sake LUAS.