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Jack Warner has used an Onion article to defend himself.

 

philippe auclair is adamant that warner has done that on purpose. apparently to curry favour with people at his local level who won't know what the onion is and that it is satire. and who presumably also don't have access to the internet and search engines.

 

 

tv right, commercial contracts, sponsors

 

would imagine that the contracts the tv companies and corporate sponsors have in place with FIFA have just been breached by FIFA itself by having most of its executive structure arrested by the FBI.

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tv right, commercial contracts, sponsors

 

this is all guesswork - and arguably part of the problem - we've no idea who is contracted to what and under what terms

 

And with regards to 2022, what's to gain from moving it to the US?

 

how about not killing another thousand migrant workers?

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would imagine that the contracts the tv companies and corporate sponsors have in place with FIFA have just been breached by FIFA itself by having most of its executive structure arrested by the FBI.

 

s'good point

 

there's also (probably) no contract between the individual member associations and any corporate sponsor/tv company

 

if there was a boycott FIFA may be be sued (and may in turn look to sue a boycotting nation but if they just withdraw from FIFA I'm not sure that would stand up), alternatively the TV/Sponsors could look to cancel the contract and go spend there $$$s on the new UEFA run tournament

 

lawyers would be rubbing their hands all over the world though in anticipation of it all

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A boycott is very unlikely, FAs would be in breach of contracts, and there's nothing to gain financially for them from a boycott

 

And with regards to 2022, what's to gain from moving it to the US? Apart from the heat issue which shouldn't be a problem now that it a going to be played in the winter , and why the US? Not England or Australia ? Or Japan for that matter?

Stadiums and infrastructure completely in place and ready to go.

 

No more migrant worker deaths as the result of the horrendous treatment from the Qataris.

 

Gay fans being able to attend a tournament without having to worry about arrest and imprisinment.

 

A summer tournament, like always, with no disruption to the biggest leagues in the world.

 

The largest capacity of stadiums and very likely to completely sell out for a new tournament record.

 

An absolutely perfect score of 100 from FIFA's own bidding criteria.

 

But say it's not the U.S.? Ok.

 

England? Sure, but back to back WC's in Europe isn't good. Strip Russia of it and give it to England would be great with me. England deserves a WC and would have had another a long time ago if it wasn't for these corrupt c*nts at FIFA.

 

Australia? Sure. They would be great too.

 

Japan? No. They had it in 2002. Too soon.

 

Korea. Same.

 

But Qatar? Absolutely no f*cking way. Every rule in the book was bent to get it to them, let alone the corruption and bribery.

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A boycott is very unlikely, FAs would be in breach of contracts, and there's nothing to gain financially for them from a boycott

 

And with regards to 2022, what's to gain from moving it to the US? Apart from the heat issue which shouldn't be a problem now that it a going to be played in the winter , and why the US? Not England or Australia ? Or Japan for that matter?

 

UEFA could boycott it and play another European Championships, and invite Brazil, Argentina, Columbia and Uruguay. UEFA hold all teh aces here. Its whether they want to play them

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UEFA could boycott it and play another European Championships, and invite Brazil, Argentina, Columbia and Uruguay. UEFA hold all teh aces here. Its whether they want to play them

 

Don't think the south american teams would be interested in leaving the FIFA world cup, FIFA have been good for the development of the south american teams

 

whether you like it or not, and whether the quality is good or not, football does exist outside Europe and South america, a break away wouldn't be good for the world game

 

one thing that does need reform though is the one FA= one vote system, if that gets sorted out, it'll make it harder for the likes of Blatter to buy the votes and gets the backing he's getting

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UEFA could boycott it and play another European Championships, and invite Brazil, Argentina, Columbia and Uruguay. UEFA hold all teh aces here. Its whether they want to play them

 

yep. and if UEFA did go ahead and do that then all the corporate sponsors and broadcasters would come with them. no way they'd miss out on that.

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Don't think the south american teams would be interested in leaving the FIFA world cup, FIFA have been good for the development of the south american teams

 

whether you like it or not, and whether the quality is good or not, football does exist outside Europe and South america, a break away wouldn't be good for the world game

 

 

They can walk away from FIFA too, follow the money - for a change.
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Don't think the south american teams would be interested in leaving the FIFA world cup, FIFA have been good for the development of the south american teams

 

whether you like it or not, and whether the quality is good or not, football does exist outside Europe and South america, a break away wouldn't be good for the world game

 

one thing that does need reform though is the one FA= one vote system, if that gets sorted out, it'll make it harder for the likes of Blatter to buy the votes and gets the backing he's getting

I don't think the vote is the issue, it's governance. Just going with an idea that some countries are more corrupt so get less say isn't a real solution.

 

Much of the cover for money going left and right is the deliberate lack of transparency and oversight with FIFA, from where it's HQd to how it's constituted, including a disingenuous ban on political influence within national FAs.

 

Tough to fix, but not impossible, as IOC showed.

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I don't think the vote is the issue, it's governance. Just going with an idea that some countries are more corrupt so get less say isn't a real solution.

 

Much of the cover for money going left and right is the deliberate lack of transparency and oversight with FIFA, from where it's HQd to how it's constituted, including a disingenuous ban on political influence within national FAs.

 

Tough to fix, but not impossible, as IOC showed.

I take your point about governance, but I also think it's not balanced that a vote from countries like samoa and Haiti carries the same weight as a vote from Brazil, Germany, England..etc

 

Maybe the votes can be proportional to the number of professional players each FA have

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I take your point about governance, but I also think it's not balanced that a vote from countries like samoa and Haiti carries the same weight as a vote from Brazil, Germany, England..etc

Maybe the votes can be proportional to the number of professional players each FA have

Aside from cover for corruption, a huge amount of the support for the little guy champion Blatter is about fear of losing that equal vote, and therefore funding and places. I think you have to keep it and work around it

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Stadiums and infrastructure completely in place and ready to go.

 

No more migrant worker deaths as the result of the horrendous treatment from the Qataris.

 

Gay fans being able to attend a tournament without having to worry about arrest and imprisinment.

 

A summer tournament, like always, with no disruption to the biggest leagues in the world.

 

The largest capacity of stadiums and very likely to completely sell out for a new tournament record.

 

An absolutely perfect score of 100 from FIFA's own bidding criteria.

 

But say it's not the U.S.? Ok.

 

England? Sure, but back to back WC's in Europe isn't good. Strip Russia of it and give it to England would be great with me. England deserves a WC and would have had another a long time ago if it wasn't for these corrupt c*nts at FIFA.

 

Australia? Sure. They would be great too.

 

Japan? No. They had it in 2002. Too soon.

 

Korea. Same.

 

But Qatar? Absolutely no f*cking way. Every rule in the book was bent to get it to them, let alone the corruption and bribery.

any token non-WASP to add to the list?

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I take your point about governance, but I also think it's not balanced that a vote from countries like samoa and Haiti carries the same weight as a vote from Brazil, Germany, England..etc

 

Maybe the votes can be proportional to the number of professional players each FA have

 

 

That's asking for trouble - look at the way the powers that be dominate cricket.

 

It's their governance and process that's the issue.

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Numbers of professional players is a bit vague.

 

How about a points system based on world rankings or how the country has performed in previous world cups? One vote for every country in the world. Bonus votes for appearances in each of the three previous Wotld Cups. Five extra votes for every time that you have win the WC

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Numbers of professional players is a bit vague.

 

How about a points system based on world rankings or how the country has performed in previous world cups? One vote for every country in the world. Bonus votes for appearances in each of the three previous Wotld Cups. Five extra votes for every time that you have win the WC

 

A recipe for keeping the tournament in Europe and S America.

 

Clear rules on eligibility to host and a system that does away with the ludicrous bidding system which encourages corruption is an easy step. WC selection should be based on weighted ratings across a number of factors like stadia/infrastructure, benefit to football growth, time since last tournament there (if applicable), feasibility (e.g. weather in Qatar should have ruled bid out) and suitability of host government (Russia and Qatar's stance on gay rights should have ruled them both out of any process).

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