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Ian Brady 'reveals location' of Keith Bennett's body

Moors Murderer Ian Brady has revealed information about where one of his victims, 12-year-old Keith Bennett, is buried, detectives believe.

 

Police think Brady gave details to a visitor to his psychiatric hospital.

 

A woman arrested in south Wales on suspicion of preventing a lawful burial of a body was named by Press Association sources as his mental health advocate, Jackie Powell.

 

Brady and Myra Hindley murdered five children between 1963 and 1965.

 

Keith's is the only body never found.

 

They kidnapped, tortured and murdered the children, whose bodies were buried on Saddleworth Moor near Manchester.

 

1987 confession Brady, 74, was jailed for life in 1966 at Chester Assizes for the murders of Lesley Ann Downey, 10, John Kilbride, 12, and Edward Evans, 17.

 

He has spent the past 25 years at the high-security Ashworth Hospital in Merseyside and has been tube-fed since refusing food 12 years ago.

 

Hindley, who died in prison in November 2002, aged 60, was given a life sentence for the murders of Lesley Ann and Edward and for shielding Brady after John's murder.

 

In 1987 they admitted killing Keith and 16-year-old Pauline Reade, whose bodies had not been found. Both were taken back to Saddleworth Moor to help police find the remains of the missing victims but only Pauline's body was found.

 

Keith Bennett's mother, who is now 78, has fought a long battle to find out where he is buried The director of public prosecutions at the time decided prosecuting Brady and Hindley for the final two killings would not be in the public interest.

 

Police abandoned the hunt for Keith's body in 2009 and officers said they would need fresh evidence to resume the search.

 

A Greater Manchester Police spokesman said: "On 30 July 2012, Greater Manchester Police received information that led officers to believe that Ian Brady had recently given details of the location of Keith Bennett's body to one of his long-term visitors.

 

"Officers in the cold case unit made inquiries to the accuracy of this report and have since had extensive contact with Ashworth Hospital and Keith's close family.

 

"As a result, warrants obtained under the Police and Criminal Evidence Act were executed at Ashworth Hospital and a private address in South Wales.

 

"A 49-year-old woman has been arrested in South Wales on suspicion of preventing the burial of a body without lawful exercise and remains in police custody for questioning. Searches of both locations are ongoing."

 

Mother's campaign Keith was abducted on his way to visit his grandmother in Manchester on 16 June 1964.

 

His mother Winnie Johnson, 78, has fought a long campaign to get Brady to reveal the location of her son's grave.

 

Myra Hindley, Brady's lover and accomplice, died in prison in 2002 Last month Brady, who was born in Glasgow, was due to go before a mental health tribunal to consider his application to be transferred to a Scottish prison and be allowed to die. But it was postponed when he suffered a seizure.

 

Last December Mrs Johnson, from Longsight, Manchester, said she wanted to attend the planned hearing to face Brady, saying she had "never seen him face to face".

 

But in the days leading up to the tribunal, before it was called off, she said it would be too traumatic for her to attend.

 

Mrs Johnson's solicitor John Ainley said she was not aware of the new developments, but said his client had "always believed that Ian Brady knew where her son was buried".

 

"She never thought anything else," he said.

 

"He had a dialogue with Winnie some years ago and she was certain that he could have provided information that would have given her closure in this harrowing case.

 

"Her one and only desire is to give her son a proper family burial during her lifetime."

 

 

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One of the things that stands out in that is the phrase 'one of his long term visitors'

Who are these people, and what is there interest in visiting Brady ?

Could be journalists I suppose.

 

Or his health advocate, as in this case.

 

He may be behind bars, but he still has officials visiting him - especially after all the hunger strike b******s

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Or his health advocate, as in this case.

 

He may be behind bars, but he still has officials visiting him - especially after all the hunger strike b******s

 

His health advocate? Didn't see that in the article.

From the way she has been arrested I hadn't thought it was anyone professionally involved.

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His health advocate? Didn't see that in the article.

From the way she has been arrested I hadn't thought it was anyone professionally involved.

 

Third paragraph in the article Any Old W A posted

 

Why would he tell her?

 

Think there is something fishy about this, maybe nicking someone he's keen on to get him to spill or something.

 

Not naming the woman is a bit weird.

 

She's been named

 

Saw an article the other day - could have been details on a program on him, not sure - which said he's still enjoying exerting control over people, especially his victims. It's probably an extension of that. He clearly likes having an accomplice, this was his way of getting another one

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Third paragraph in the article Any Old W A posted

 

 

 

She's been named

 

Saw an article the other day - could have been details on a program on him, not sure - which said he's still enjoying exerting control over people, especially his victims. It's probably an extension of that. He clearly likes having an accomplice, this was his way of getting another one

 

Cheers, The guardian article is a lot more revealing than the bbc one.

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Saw an article the other day - could have been details on a program on him, not sure - which said he's still enjoying exerting control over people, especially his victims. It's probably an extension of that. He clearly likes having an accomplice, this was his way of getting another one

 

aye, I don't think he has any intention of telling where the lad is, as if that's all he's got left

 

btw, if this is true...

 

- Powell was apparently detained after telling a Channel 4 documentary that Brady gave her a sealed envelope to pass on to Winnie Johnson in the event of Brady's death.

 

...should she do time anyway? Shouldn't she have told the police and/or Mr Johnson first before someone from the telly?

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aye, I don't think he has any intention of telling where the lad is, as if that's all he's got left

 

btw, if this is true...

 

- Powell was apparently detained after telling a Channel 4 documentary that Brady gave her a sealed envelope to pass on to Winnie Johnson in the event of Brady's death.

 

...should she do time anyway? Shouldn't she have told the police and/or Mr Johnson first before someone from the telly?

 

Yup. Pretty much straight away. Suspect her professionalism has been tainted over time

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Yeah man, 13 years exposed to that tw*t, especially in Ashworth, would take some doing.

 

Totally

 

Must be a tricky one to call. Keep changing the health official to keep them safe, but you don't get any insight into Brady.

Leave one person in the role, build up trust, and hope he'll spill something, and risk the health official going rogue

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Wouldn't be the least bit surprised if any letter he might have written told Mrs Johnson to go f*ck herself, or similar. The shock would be if he actually pointed the way.

 

I'd still have the health visitor bint in court over it, mind, no matter what it said. No excuse for her keeping her gob shut at all.

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Wouldn't surprise me if this is just another of Brady's schemes used to taunt & torture Keith Bennett's mother.

 

When we lived in Sale, my dad was mates with someone who was high up in GMP, and they used to go out every thursday night for a pint.

 

One day, he turned up at the house on Wednesday night, asking for me dad, so Dad went for a pint with him as it was clear something was up.

 

He had taken Hindley to the moors as "she knew where keith was" he took her round round, he knew she had no idea she just wanted a day out.

 

He said it was clear he was in the presence of pure evil

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Wouldn't be the least bit surprised if any letter he might have written told Mrs Johnson to go f*ck herself, or similar. The shock would be if he actually pointed the way.

 

I'd still have the health visitor bint in court over it, mind, no matter what it said. No excuse for her keeping her gob shut at all.

As the charge is that of preventing a "proper" burial, there must surely be a reference to a site and she must have known that was the content, surely?

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As the charge is that of preventing a "proper" burial, there must surely be a reference to a site and she must have known that was the content, surely?

 

 

hopefully they have another charge up their sleeves if they get their hands on it and it doesnt mention a site

 

not sure what though

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hopefully they have another charge up their sleeves if they get their hands on it and it doesnt mention a site

 

not sure what though

 

Why? If she hasn't done anything wrong (and if she hasn't withheld details of where the body is, i can't see that she has), what do you want her charged with or for?

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hopefully they have another charge up their sleeves if they get their hands on it and it doesnt mention a site

 

not sure what though

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Why? If she hasn't done anything wrong (and if she hasn't withheld details of where the body is, i can't see that she has), what do you want her charged with or for?

 

 

What reasonable explanation can she give for withholding a letter given to her by Ian Brady which he has asked to be passed on to this woman after his death? She knows what it could contain. No amount of 'professional obligation' can surely hold more importance than the discovery of a child's body.

 

And it's her who has said this letter exists and the instructions she has been given.

 

Powell, who has professional obligations in her capacity as executor and her role as Brady's mental health advocate, told the documentary she has not opened the sealed envelope so cannot be certain of its contents. But she told the Daily Mirror Brady did not want "to take his secrets to the grave", adding that the document could afford Johnson "the means of her possibly being able to rest".
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What reasonable explanation can she give for withholding a letter given to her by Ian Brady which he has asked to be passed on to this woman after his death? She knows what it could contain. No amount of 'professional obligation' can surely hold more importance than the discovery of a child's body.

 

And it's her who has said this letter exists and the instructions she has been given.

 

Oh there's no reasonable explanation, I grant you, but if - as you asked - the letter contains no evidence, then there has been no crime. Professional misconduct, almost certainly, but not crime. So there's nothing else they can charge her with.

 

That's on the assumption that the letter contains nothing to do with the victim's death, of course.

 

The fact she thought it did is reason enough to charge her and sack her, though. And suggests they're reasonably sure the letter contains what they think it contains

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Oh there's no reasonable explanation, I grant you, but if - as you asked - the letter contains no evidence, then there has been no crime. Professional misconduct, almost certainly, but not crime. So there's nothing else they can charge her with.

 

That's on the assumption that the letter contains nothing to do with the victim's death, of course.

 

The fact she thought it did is reason enough to charge her and sack her, though. And suggests they're reasonably sure the letter contains what they think it contains

 

 

Don't know.

 

With-holding a document from the police that she believes solves a crime whilst giving the media interviews all about it sounds like some sort of perversion of justice, wasting of police time, harrassment...even if the letter doesnt say what she tells the press it does.

 

Ie, imagine there's no letter at all, that she has made the whole thing up for a laugh or a bit of publicity. You'd want locking up for that. She's mouthing off that she's got this secret letter and that it's in her house and she hasn't opened it. There'll be a charge that'll fit that somewhere.

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