Bomb in Oslo

[Coyler]

Might be true, but might as well just be some terrorist trying to get credit and enhance their status.

Yeah, deffo. They said at the end of the interview that the American was from the Centre for Radicalization Studies in King's College in London, I think. He got it off a text message just as they were talking to him.

Edited July 22, 2011 by Coyler

[RBM]

That'd be my guess, not that there's a lot to go on at the moment. Does Norway have a history of right-wing extremist groups of any kind?

 

There's a small element of Neo Nazis and right wingers, but nothing with any major infrastrucure like the militia groups of the US, and there's the usual far right parties you'd find anywhere. But it's almost entirely a relaxed progressive liberal country.

[Eiler99]

Police confirm at least 10 dead at Utøya.

[Beardsley]

There's a small element of Neo Nazis and right wingers, but nothing with any major infrastrucure like the militia groups of the US, and there's the usual far right parties you'd find anywhere. But it's almost entirely a relaxed progressive liberal country.

 

 

The Neo Nazis/far right wingers haven't been seen since early '80s. As you say, we are very relaxed and liberal.

[Beardsley]

The police saying the same man could have placed the bomb and shot the kids. To me, this sounds far fetched if this involves just one person. Guess we'll know more tomorrow.

[Coyler]

Your man who got the text on air is saying now it was a hoax. He's a "terrorism expert" apparently.

[Falconhoof]

The police saying the same man could have placed the bomb and shot the kids. To me, this sounds far fetched if this involves just one person. Guess we'll know more tomorrow.

 

It was my first assumption that the same man did both, not sure why.

[Beardsley]

It was my first assumption that the same man did both, not sure why.

 

 

Thing is, the van or car with the bomb would have to be parked a few hours in front of the governmental buildings while he drives to the youth camp. There's no parking in front of the buildings and I guess somebody would check the car out within short. So, my guess is there is at least two persons who have done this.

[Falconhoof]

Thing is, the van or car with the bomb would have to be parked a few hours in front of the governmental buildings while he drives to the youth camp. There's no parking in front of the buildings and I guess somebody would check the car out within short. So, my guess is there is at least two persons who have done this.

 

Is it really a couple of hours to the youth camp ?

Even so, I guess he could have found a way to get the car there, a security blindspot of some sort.

But, what you are saying diminishes the credibility of the lone operator theory somewhat.

[Eiler99]

Thing is, the van or car with the bomb would have to be parked a few hours in front of the governmental buildings while he drives to the youth camp. There's no parking in front of the buildings and I guess somebody would check the car out within short. So, my guess is there is at least two persons who have done this.

 

But it's only a 45-60 minute drive from Oslo to Utøya, right? And the shootings didn't start until a few hours after the explosion. So it's possible he's behind both.

 

Edit: Just checked, Google Maps says 37,5 kilometres from Stortinget where the bomb went off to Utøya.

Edited July 22, 2011 by Eiler99

[Beardsley]

But it's only a 45-60 minute drive from Oslo to Utøya, right? And the shootings didn't start until a few hours after the explosion. So it's possible he's behind both.

 

Edit: Just checked, Google Maps says 37,5 kilometres from Stortinget where the bomb went off to Utøya.

 

 

And then he have to get over to the island. And the roads aren't exactly highways. An abandoned car parked on a no-park place in front of the governmental buildings would be very suspicious (at least in my mind). I really hope the police would check such a car within short. But, we are very relaxed and probably a tad naive, so I'm not saying it's definitely not possible...

[Beardsley]

And then he have to get over to the island. And the roads aren't exactly highways. An abandoned car parked on a no-park place in front of the governmental buildings would be very suspicious (at least in my mind). I really hope the police would check such a car within short. But, we are very relaxed and probably a tad naive, so I'm not saying it's definitely not possible...

 

 

Person arrested is confirmed Norwegian. So, probably no Islamic terrorists.

[Falconhoof]

Person arrested is confirmed Norwegian. So, probably no Islamic terrorists.

 

There are no Norwegian Muslims ?

[Beardsley]

There are no Norwegian Muslims ?

 

 

He, he. Of course there are, but the way the Minister of Justice said "he was Norwegian" (about the arrested person) he sounded prototype Norwegian. Most muslims in Norway are immigrants.

[Falconhoof]

he sounded prototype Norwegian.

 

its definitely Riise, lock the ginger c*** up!

[Bailo]

How could one man rustle up 100kg (as reported) of explosives?

[Beardsley]

How could one man rustle up 100kg (as reported) of explosives?

 

 

It was probably more than 100 kg. More like 300-400 kilo. The blast took out windows 1 kilometer away. Still, it could easily be assembled in a van by one man.

[drdooom]

Timothy McVeigh had over 2000kg of bad stuff in his truck. He only had one other guy help him.

[Eiler99]

Police saying they've found undetonated explosives at Utøya.

[Beardsley]

Police saying they've found undetonated explosives at Utøya.

 

 

 

Hmmmmm, maybe it is just one man..... Then, he must be a calculating cold fish to pull this terror off.

[FirstDescent]

Fingers crossed its just 1 man thats behind this.

[Swipe]

Tabloids showing their usual tact in their coverage. The Mirror's front page goes with "Terror Island" while the rag says "Norway's 9/11".

 

Idiots.

[Spion kop]

Hmmmmm, maybe it is just one man..... Then, he must be a calculating cold fish to pull this terror off.

I dunno, two maybe three bombs are separate sites. Seems difficult work for a lone madman.

[Gilps]

Tabloids showing their usual tact in their coverage. The Mirror's front page goes with "Terror Island" while the rag says "Norway's 9/11".

 

Idiots.

 

Do either of them use the word Muslim as often as Spion Kop in this thread?

[Swipe]

Do either of them use the word Muslim as often as Spion Kop in this thread?

 

Heh.

 

Some BBC guy on Twitter has said the mayor of Oslo has told them the gunmen did the bombing too.